thanks, i went with the core edition so no fans were included ordered xigmatech fan to put on the push, while my current rear exhaust zalman fan will act as the pull, it's a good fan, i'll see how the xigmatech works, hear nothing but praise for them being silent and good air flow, if it turns out to be a good fan i'll replace the current generic intakes and upper exhaust with them. 9 bucks sounds too good to be true though.