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Read more on EVGA's GTX 1080 Ti KINGPIN Hydro Copper.
Read more on EVGA's GTX 1080 Ti KINGPIN Hydro Copper.
EVGA announces their GTX 1080 Ti K|NGP|N Hydro Copper single slot GPU
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Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Talk about milking Pascal ^_^
Kaapstad
Active member
You can probably get a Stars Wars Titan Xp for less lol.
The Kingpin 980 Ti was a fantastic card, the 1080 Ti Kingpin has been a dead loss in nearly all ways.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Agreed !
A Titan Xp I can understand if someone wants the bleeding edge or hell even the Star Wars Titan Xp as it genuinely looks immense but paying over £700 for a 1080 Ti which is a cut down chip, In my opinion is where people should seriously start questioning their sanity.
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trawetSluaP
Member
But that extra one bin though...
Kaapstad
Active member
This ^
You can pay $1249.99 for the Kingpin
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6799-KR
Or you can pay $1200.00 for the Star Wars Titan Xp
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/star-wars-galactic-empire-titan-xp-collectors-edition/
It is not often you see the terms "better bang for buck" and "Titan Xp" in the same sentence lol.
trawetSluaP
Member
Realistically though will the 1080Ti be faster and score higher due to the cooling?
Kaapstad
Active member
The Air cooled Kingpin 1080 Ti has shown no better performance than the FE 1080 Ti so don't hold your breath that a water cooled Kingpin will be any faster than a FE watercooled.
Even using the reference cooler a Titan Xp is quite a bit faster than the watercooled 1080 Ti cards.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
This ^
You can pay $1249.99 for the Kingpin
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6799-KR
Or you can pay $1200.00 for the Star Wars Titan Xp
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/star-wars-galactic-empire-titan-xp-collectors-edition/
It is not often you see the terms "better bang for buck" and "Titan Xp" in the same sentence lol.
Yeah if I was to pay £1000+ for a single GPU I'd want the full fat item i.e Titan Xp, Doesn't matter how many extra power phases it has, Big fat no from me ^_^
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Agreed. If I had to have one GPU for £1200, I'd buy the Titan Xp Star Wars edition.
trawetSluaP
Member
Was referring to a reference Titan Xp vs AIB 1080Ti. I got a LOT of throttling with a reference 1080Ti!
Kaapstad
Active member
Non reference and FE 1080 Ti cards have the same performance when waterblocks are fitted.
With Pascal beefed up power delivery and special components do very little. If you look around the Kingpin is not the best speced 1080 Ti as it does not have to be due to the limitations with Pascal.
You will see Kingpin himself use the cards to do well on LN2 and the extreme benching but remember he works for EVGA who do not sell the Titan Xp, EVGA are not going to want to see a competitors cards do well (NVidia Titan Xp) so Kingpin won't use them.
Eddie long
Member
No thanks i stick with my poseidon's i know there love or hate but they are beasties , and i love them
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
It does perform a little better, but not like the 980Ti back in the day, which went from 1300Mhz boost to 1450Mhz boost and beyond, affording an enormous increase in FPS.
Also, the power delivery does help with the GTX 1080. I've noticed a lot of users on OCN who were trying to eek out every last drop of performance of the FE, and a non-reference air cooled card like the ASUS Strix performed better than a liquid cooled FE because the card was hitting a power limit while the AIB partner variants had a much higher TDP. Some have even hard modified the PCB of the FE to increase the power. The performance increase was negligible, but it was still worth it to them.
Kaapstad
Active member
What you are describing is the variations in the silicon lottery as I have also seen some very fast FE Pascal cards. Oddly enough I own a couple of 1060s, one is a Strix and the other is a FE and it is the reference card that clocks the higher for me.
The Kingpin 980 Ti was something special, both of mine are very high ASIC (over 82%) and have no trouble boosting to 1575mhz on air.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I'm not talking about raw horsepower; I'm talking about performance-per-decibel, which I admit is a given in my vernacular but maybe not in others. That's the biggest issue. We could have massive processing units in our systems running at full tilt if we had server grade fans spinning 24/7. But that would hurt our ears, so AIB partners focus most of their efforts on creating a quieter unit that still clocks high. The new MSI Trio 1080Ti for example, it doesn't score any higher than the Gaming X 11G, but it's a few decibels quieter and that's its selling point. You can easily overclock a FE 1080Ti to the same levels, but it'll be louder. That's the issue. AIB partner cards are superior in general because the GPU is allowed to 'be free' without having to sacrifice on stable boost clocks (that don't fluctuate a lot) or noise.
Kaapstad
Active member
That's NVIDIA doing what NVIDIA does best Market their customers into a state of delusion so NVIDIA can pry money out of their wallets.
This type of price gouging makes me wonder if ole Jensen is planning to abandon the consumer market for GPU Cards as from the looks of it NVIDIA appears to have a Scorched Earth Policy.
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