WYP
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A premium board for some 12-core Ryzen 3rd Gen overclocking.
Read more about ASUS' ROG Crosshair VIII Formula X570 motherboard.
Read more about ASUS' ROG Crosshair VIII Formula X570 motherboard.
EK and ASUS team up to create the ROG Crosshair VIII Formula X570 motherboard
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Really simple answers...
Because of cost. And because where else would you put that won't get blocked by something else? It will get covered the least on the IO shield.
Beautiful board Asus. Though not worth the insane cost it will inevitably cost.
Dawelio
Active member
Between the CPU socket and the PCI-E slot... Just like the Z390 Maximus Formula. Looks better overall in my opinion and better overall presentation.
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Yeah look again and tell me it'll fit on the AMD board in that spot.
Dawelio
Active member
That doesn’t mean it wouldn’t have been impossible for them to design it that way though...
The Rog logo will be partially covered by long GPUs, the IO covered by fans. There is literally no where on a mobo you can display the led they have without a component covering it.
AlienALX
Well-known member
It's a water cooled board. Why would you want a 120mm exhaust fan? you'd highly likely want it in your loop connected to your rads, and who would bother with a 120mm rad in the back?
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
This^^^^
Dawelio
Active member
Just because it’s a water cooled board, doesn’t mean it won’t work as a normal board and therefore be used as it. I’ll most likely get it and I don’t custom water cool.
Just because something is designed for a specific purpose in mind, but works without it, doesn’t mean you have to do it
Hence having a rear exhaust fan Yet the Intel counterpart motherboard I linked above does it
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Dawelio
Active member
Well that is your opinion and not something I neither agree with nor could give any less care about to be honest
Each to their own... Anywho, letting this go since I don’t need to explain nor defend my opinions nor choices here.Not sure what you’re on about regarding the rest all have two fans on it and this clearly doesn’t?...
AlienALX
Well-known member
Well that is your opinion and not something I neither agree with nor could give any less care about to be honest
Not sure what you’re on about regarding the rest all have two fans on it and this clearly doesn’t?...
It's not my opinion. That is a water cooling board. Am I wrong? OK, so if you are buying a water cooling board you would water cool it. Otherwise you would get the non "EK WATER BLOCKS " version and be happy.
The fans I refer to are the ones that pretty much every other X570 board has. I would surmise that Zen 2 is quite the pig when it comes to eating power, so the fets have cooling fans on. This one clearly doesn't, because obviously it's been designed to be full of water.
Dawelio
Active member
Again, not sure what fans you’re on about... Since the only fan I see is the one located on the right side, basically underneath the GPU (and these are the 2 ROG boards I’ve found online that will be released for the X570 chipset):
I'm dumping my PC and starting again with this and a Seasonic Focus Gold 1000W.
Thinking a Lian-li PC-011 ROG jobbie and a Vega Vii (I'm enjoying ROCm too much to start looking at Nvidia's stuff) + the oled won't be hidden
I'll keep my AquaComputer stuff (D5 Next, Aquaero 6, Splittys), EK Blocks and XSPC RX Rads. Sell on my Ryzen 2700X, Crosshair VII, Samsung 970 EVO Pluses and replace with Ryzen 9 3900X, Crosshair VIII Formula, and whatever M.2 PCIe 4 Samsung come up with. Undecided on keeping, adding to or swapping out my B die TridentZ's running at 3333 C14.
Thinking a Lian-li PC-011 ROG jobbie and a Vega Vii (I'm enjoying ROCm too much to start looking at Nvidia's stuff) + the oled won't be hidden
I'll keep my AquaComputer stuff (D5 Next, Aquaero 6, Splittys), EK Blocks and XSPC RX Rads. Sell on my Ryzen 2700X, Crosshair VII, Samsung 970 EVO Pluses and replace with Ryzen 9 3900X, Crosshair VIII Formula, and whatever M.2 PCIe 4 Samsung come up with. Undecided on keeping, adding to or swapping out my B die TridentZ's running at 3333 C14.
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I'm dumping my PC and starting again with this and a Seasonic Focus Gold 1000W.
Thinking a Lian-li PC-011 ROG jobbie and a Vega Vii (I'm enjoying ROCm too much to start looking at Nvidia's stuff) + the oled won't be hidden
I'll keep my AquaComputer stuff (D5 Next, Aquaero 6, Splittys), EK Blocks and XSPC RX Rads. Sell on my Ryzen 2700X, Crosshair VII, Samsung 970 EVO Pluses and replace with Ryzen 9 3900X, Crosshair VIII Formula, and whatever M.2 PCIe 4 Samsung come up with. Undecided on keeping, adding to or swapping out my B die TridentZ's running at 3333 C14.
Damn, that sounds like quite a kit there. That'll be one sexy PC
Love the case btw. Never heard of it so did some looking into real quick and man I wish they made an ITX version. Looks really clean. I actually really loved the Razer edition it just looked awesome but no a Razer fanboy so I wouldn't get it^_^
Just because something is designed for a specific purpose in mind, but works without it, doesn’t mean you have to do it
Yet the Intel counterpart motherboard I linked above does it
Please show me, because I guarantee my GPU will cover that Chipset logo, and a rear exhaust fan will cover the IO.
edit* Actually nevermind, because I have no care of RGB on products.
Could be Alien is talking about the fan under the IO directed towards the finfet. This fan cooling is most likely absent on pure watercooled boards.
My Z97 Sabertooth had it. But my rog maximum extreme didnt. This block cools everything, including the my m.2 drive under the block.
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AlienALX
Well-known member
I just don't understand why you would deliberately waste your money on a board solely designed for water cooling (with a price premium) over the one that isn't (the Hero).
Looking at the power requirements I see a 8 pin and a 4 pin. Now if it's obligatory to hook both of those up then that's a lot of power meaning a lot of waste heat. I've had a poke through quite a few boards now and they all seem to have both. That's a lot of current. More than any other "bone stock" motherboard I have ever seen before. I mean sure, I have seen some boards with two 8 pin but only in the instance of extreme overclocking. Never as an actual bare bones requirement.
Which would suggest to me that that may have something to do with Asus's decision to go with a board with water cooling onboard as it were.
Looking at the power requirements I see a 8 pin and a 4 pin. Now if it's obligatory to hook both of those up then that's a lot of power meaning a lot of waste heat. I've had a poke through quite a few boards now and they all seem to have both. That's a lot of current. More than any other "bone stock" motherboard I have ever seen before. I mean sure, I have seen some boards with two 8 pin but only in the instance of extreme overclocking. Never as an actual bare bones requirement.
Which would suggest to me that that may have something to do with Asus's decision to go with a board with water cooling onboard as it were.
I think it'd be an optional thing, even if you don't use all that current(~235W for 8-pin, ~150W for 4 pin), spreading the load out across several cables reduces resistance and voltage drop/power loss which can get quite significant at 12V with higher currents(I^2 losses so they increase exponentially), which would result in slightly lower pin temperatures, better efficiency and better stability.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Just because it’s a water cooled board, doesn’t mean it won’t work as a normal board and therefore be used as it. I’ll most likely get it and I don’t custom water cool.
Just because something is designed for a specific purpose in mind, but works without it, doesn’t mean you have to do it
The only functional difference between the formula board and non formula board is the waterblock, Seems a little odd to buy the board with the built in waterblocks if you'd never use them AND be paying $150 extra to have them.
The phrase more money than sense comes to mind ^_^
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