EA Reportedly Cancels Star Wars Open World Game

[Dicehunter]

First of all, they're just movies that are mostly for kids. And second, what political correctness? Pretty much everyone loves Thanos and he is a genocidal maniac. In general, people tend to like monstrous villains with authoritarian tendencies a lot more than heroes.

Once again, people see only that which they want to see and they will cherry pick the crap out of something to sustain their delusions.

I find it insane that people are actually mad about diversity in comic book movies and movies set in a different galaxy filled with countless species. What the actual f**k do you expect?

It's not that there are different ethnicities and women in a film, That in itself is great, It's the fact that the writers, Directors and producers in the process have done nothing but verbally put down anyone who happens to be white, That's the gripe a lot have with these films.

 

[NeverBackDown]

First of all, they're just movies that are mostly for kids. And second, what political correctness? Pretty much everyone loves Thanos and he is a genocidal maniac. In general, people tend to like monstrous villains with authoritarian tendencies a lot more than heroes.


Once again, people see only that which they want to see and they will cherry pick the crap out of something to sustain their delusions.


I find it insane that people are actually mad about diversity in comic book movies and movies set in a different galaxy filled with countless species. What the actual f**k do you expect?

Yeah it's not even close to thanos. Makes no sense there are no similarities at all.
You just simply have missed the point entirely it seems.
Disney has ruined Star Wars. They have said nothing is no longer cannon starting from the point of taking over. This just basically called an Order 66 on thousands of SW books and cannon ones at that. They are pursuing a female empowerment by using a female lead. She goes from knowing jack **** to defeating a Sith Apprentice in 5 seconds. It's awful plot, character development, and you name it. Awful. The Last Jedi was truly bad as well and that movie alone has caused a massive rift in the SW community.
Then they mess up the Solo movie. It was average at best. Mediocre reviews from both critics and fans. Then Disney says the movie was great people just weren't interested in it. They very seriously have no idea how to make a good movie outside of a princess movie. What's worse is that since they believe people don't want character specific movies, they may never do an Obi Wan movie or Qui-Gon movie. The top 2 most requested movies for characters... All because they don't listen to the fans. Truly sad if we never see those.

Marvel may be owned by Disney, but Marvel runs itself. They are a subsidiary of Disney. Free to operate as a normal business. They are not alike. Comparing them starts and ends at the fact that Marvel makes fantasy movies as well as Disney.

 

[ImprovizoR]

Lucas destroyed Star Wars long before Disney got anywhere close to it. The prequels are some of the worst movies ever made. They existed only for George Lucas to make money from SW merchandise. Yeah, games were better back then, but the movies are still horrible. Despite the lackluster The Last Jedi, Star Wars can still be salvaged. The Force Awakens was more than OK. And we still have no idea why Rey was able to wield the lightsaber and use the force so effectively. That could still be revealed in the third one. If not, then your point about her will stand.


As for Solo, I haven't seen it yet. But Rogue One was a pretty damn good movie.


You...you actually care about Qui-Gon? He's a total non-entity!

 

[NeverBackDown]

Your opinion about the prequals, I disagree. I could now say you're seeing what you want to see

I never said SW couldn't be salvaged but they have ruined it. Which is why it needs salvaging in the first place.
Rouge one was hard to mess up. It was a simple story and everyone knew the ending

Qui-Gon is an immensely popular Jedi. He has a very good amount of backstory and he's views of the Jedi shaped by Jedi Master Doku(before being turned) is the whole reason why Yoda and Ben were able to trascend themselves into the force after death. He appears quite a bit in the movie timeline just never in the movies. He taught Yoda quite a bit and after Order 66 Yoda realized Qui-Gon was right in his views if the Jedi and the force

 

[AngryGoldfish]

Yeah it's not even close to thanos. Makes no sense there are no similarities at all.
You just simply have missed the point entirely it seems.
Disney has ruined Star Wars. They have said nothing is no longer cannon starting from the point of taking over. This just basically called an Order 66 on thousands of SW books and cannon ones at that. They are pursuing a female empowerment by using a female lead. She goes from knowing jack **** to defeating a Sith Apprentice in 5 seconds. It's awful plot, character development, and you name it. Awful. The Last Jedi was truly bad as well and that movie alone has caused a massive rift in the SW community.
Then they mess up the Solo movie. It was average at best. Mediocre reviews from both critics and fans. Then Disney says the movie was great people just weren't interested in it. They very seriously have no idea how to make a good movie outside of a princess movie. What's worse is that since they believe people don't want character specific movies, they may never do an Obi Wan movie or Qui-Gon movie. The top 2 most requested movies for characters... All because they don't listen to the fans. Truly sad if we never see those.

Marvel may be owned by Disney, but Marvel runs itself. They are a subsidiary of Disney. Free to operate as a normal business. They are not alike. Comparing them starts and ends at the fact that Marvel makes fantasy movies as well as Disney.

You mean like LucasFilm? Because LucasFilm is the production company behind the Star Wars films. Marvel Studios is behind the Marvel films. Pixar is behind the Pixar films. They're all owned by Disney, a distributor.

Lucas destroyed Star Wars long before Disney got anywhere close to it. The prequels are some of the worst movies ever made. They existed only for George Lucas to make money from SW merchandise. Yeah, games were better back then, but the movies are still horrible. Despite the lackluster The Last Jedi, Star Wars can still be salvaged. The Force Awakens was more than OK. And we still have no idea why Rey was able to wield the lightsaber and use the force so effectively. That could still be revealed in the third one. If not, then your point about her will stand.


As for Solo, I haven't seen it yet. But Rogue One was a pretty damn good movie.


You...you actually care about Qui-Gon? He's a total non-entity!

Agreed. George Lucas 'destroyed Star Wars' before Disney ever did. I remember the foul taste in everyone's mouth when all three of the prequels became a joke so soon after they were released. Once the fandom died down, everyone knew how bad they were.

When you analyse The Force Awakens, it's not just the story that follows the same beats as the original trilogy, it follows the same themes and focuses on the same kind of characters. I've watched A New Hope loads of times (like everyone) and I still don't see what all the fuss is about, what makes it so much better than TFA. It has endless problems just like TFA. I do love it of course and I love the originals more, but Rogue One was a huge success to me, The Force Awakens was exciting in the same ways the original films were, and The Last Jedi was bold and interesting. It missed a lot of its beats, but it had balls. Solo was the only misfire for me so far, and even then I'd still watch it and enjoy it.

I've said this before so many times I don't even know where I've said it now, but when you look at Star Wars as a whole you see how the originals were so much more about the time they were released. When you see their problems (that people magically ignore but focus on with the newer Disney-owned films), look at the cast, look at who were the filmmakers behind them, it all points to Star Wars being largely being a fluke, a fluke that will not be repeated. I reckon nothing LucasFilm could do right now will please people. They will still complain. Even when a film objectively is good, they'll still complain. The fandom is so deeply ingrained, little will suffice. If someone other than Disney bought LucasFilm, what we'd have would be different, but would it be better? Would it be largely accepted and adored? I don't think so.

 

[ImprovizoR]

Your opinion about the prequals, I disagree. I could now say you're seeing what you want to see

I can tell you want I don't want to see - the prequels ever again.


Jar-Jar, young Anakin, bitchy Anakin in other two movies (let's face it, Lucas ruined Darth Vader by giving him such a weak origin story), Yoda flying around with his tiny little lightsaber fighting Dooku in one of the worst Jedi fights ever filmed, Yoda being a goddamn idiot, a boring plot about galactic politics that doesn't make sense, Jar-Jar as a Senator, worst use of Samuel L. Jackson ever, absolute reliance on weird looking CGI that aged like milk, boring cast, terrible pacing etc. I could go on, buy why not just watch that RedLetterMedia review again and see for yourself. Those are really terrible movies.

 

[AlienALX]

You mean like LucasFilm? Because LucasFilm is the production company behind the Star Wars films. Marvel Studios is behind the Marvel films. Pixar is behind the Pixar films. They're all owned by Disney, a distributor.



Agreed. George Lucas 'destroyed Star Wars' before Disney ever did. I remember the foul taste in everyone's mouth when all three of the prequels became a joke so soon after they were released. Once the fandom died down, everyone knew how bad they were.

I think South Park said it best...

 

[NeverBackDown]

You mean like LucasFilm? Because LucasFilm is the production company behind the Star Wars films. Marvel Studios is behind the Marvel films. Pixar is behind the Pixar films. They're all owned by Disney, a distributor.

The difference is Marvel has strong leadership. Lucas Films apparently doesn't. Like I said comparing them ends at fantasy stories. The reason Marvel is so successful is because they choose what to do and don't rely on anybody else, they have strong leadership that goes by the beat of their own drum. Disney has played a much bigger role in SW than Marvel. You can see that reflected into the story.

I personally never like SW as much as other people. So to me it was plainly obvious how terrible it's all gotten as I wasn't biased. I hardly knew of Marvel before Iron Man. Heck I didn't even know who Iron Man was lol. I came into everything with as an objective mindset as possible. Which is why my opinions are the way they are. But honestly this will just keep going in circles so I'm just gonna exit the thread now. I have to much calculus to study to continue this

 

[AngryGoldfish]

The difference is Marvel has strong leadership. Lucas Films apparently doesn't. Like I said comparing them ends at fantasy stories. The reason Marvel is so successful is because they choose what to do and don't rely on anybody else, they have strong leadership that goes by the beat of their own drum. Disney has played a much bigger role in SW than Marvel. You can see that reflected into the story.

I personally never like SW as much as other people. So to me it was plainly obvious how terrible it's all gotten as I wasn't biased. I hardly knew of Marvel before Iron Man. Heck I didn't even know who Iron Man was lol. I came into everything with as an objective mindset as possible. Which is why my opinions are the way they are. But honestly this will just keep going in circles so I'm just gonna exit the thread now. I have to much calculus to study to continue this

But Kathleen Kennedy has been behind some of the greatest films ever made and was a part of LucasFilm before Disney bought the company. Kevin Feige might have more room to do his thing and is certainly very knowledgeable when it comes to comic books, but Kennedy has been a part of LucasFilm in one way or another since the 80's. What makes you think that Disney are controlling her in more anti-consumer/anti-Star Wars ways than they are Feige? Feige has been pushing for cultural variety just as Kennedy has. He's been trying to establish a large world that's accessible to all just like Kennedy. I can see Disney's hand in the MCU just as much as I can in the Star Wars universe. In fact, I read an interview with a prospective director for an upcoming MCU film (might have been Black Widow) where she was turned down the role because she wanted to direct the action sequences but wasn't allowed to because Marvel Studios had their own dedicated crew for it. You have also Edgar Wright stepping down supposedly because he wasn't given the freedom he needed for Ant-Man.

And I was never a diehard Star Wars fan either. I'm a film lover before anything else. This hatred that's been circling around the net (not from you) towards film critics largely stems from the likes of TLJ where critics appreciated the film and praised it while 'fans' hated it. The fans then say the critics are shills and clueless. But if you look on film blogging sites like Letterboxd where reviewers are film lovers and aren't paid and are both Star Wars diehards and apathetic to Star Wars, they are extremely knowledgeable and have far more experience than the average redditor who loves to hate on Disney/Rian Johnson. If you read their reviews, they give valid reasons for liking TLJ. There are analysis videos by sound chaps on YouTube exploring why the film was a success. Conversely there are equally sound chaps exploring why the film stinks. And they both have valid points. But to say Johnson's product was a product of Disney first and foremost doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Fetchez La Vache]

They are pursuing a female empowerment by using a female lead. She goes from knowing jack **** to defeating a Sith Apprentice in 5 seconds.

Luke goes from shooting rats on a moisture farm he has never left to being an ace pilot and destroying the death star in the space of 2 hrs.

A new character, who this time lacks a penis, has similar character development arc and some people lose their minds, christ.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

Luke goes from shooting rats on a moisture farm he has never left to being an ace pilot and destroying the death star in the space of 2 hrs.

A new character, who this time lacks a penis, has similar character development arc and some people lose their minds, christ.

This. If the arguments and criticisms against the new Star Wars films were applied to the original trilogy, they wouldn't be so adored. I totally get why the originals were in so many ways so much better, and I get why so many don't like the new ones, but there's a lot of illogical criticisms that get lost amid the valid.

 

[Dicehunter]

Luke goes from shooting rats on a moisture farm he has never left to being an ace pilot and destroying the death star in the space of 2 hrs.

A new character, who this time lacks a penis, has similar character development arc and some people lose their minds, christ.

Luke was already an ace pilot practising in his T-16 for a fair few years, He didn't go from never having flown anything to suddenly being an ace pilot, Rey went from never having flown anything to being an ace pilot and a master of the Lightsaber within 1 movie, That's exceptionally lazy writing.

 

[Dawelio]

Right, so thread has gone from EA closing down an Star Wars game to indepth stories about LucasFilm, Disney, how the movies have been made, Star Wars characters in the movies to how everyones opinions on the movies are... On 4 pages.

Why not just make an dedicated ”OC3D Star Wars Thread” or someting, where you can discuss exactly all of this? Rather than derailing another thread from it’s original subject...

 

[NeverBackDown]

Luke goes from shooting rats on a moisture farm he has never left to being an ace pilot and destroying the death star in the space of 2 hrs.

A new character, who this time lacks a penis, has similar character development arc and some people lose their minds, christ.

So ignoring SW here and the only reason I bothered to reply, but this has nothing to do with being a female. Don't pull a leftist maneuver and blame and label people. I have nothing against female characters or leads, there's no reason to be against it.

 

[grec]

I was introduced to star wars at the age of 21, someone made me watch A New Hope, got about 40 minutes in and gave up, I don't see how anyone can hold that film to such acclaim beyond nostalgia, it felt like watching a mix of Indiana Jones & The Wizard of Oz in space.

I enjoy some of the games, but all this getting upset over a lore & canon that from what I can tell has always been an improvised mess, some of which was created entirely during advertisements for random merchandise, from a series that famously existed primarily because it was an easy sell for kids merchandise/advertising, and was apparently thoroughly destroyed by its original creator every time he had much creative influence over it(I mean, Lucas only wrote/directed the first film of the first/"good" trilogy), I really don't get why it's taken so seriously as if it had some kind of deep or well thought out background getting destroyed, it all seems as shallow and basic as a hollywood series can get from the get go if you didn't first view it through the magic of childhood, I really doubt Disney could have done much to drag it down.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

Right, so thread has gone from EA closing down an Star Wars game to indepth stories about LucasFilm, Disney, how the movies have been made, Star Wars characters in the movies to how everyones opinions on the movies are... On 4 pages.

Why not just make an dedicated ”OC3D Star Wars Thread” or someting, where you can discuss exactly all of this? Rather than derailing another thread from it’s original subject...

I know what you mean, but in fairness it still is relevant and likely isn't a discussion that'll go forever. I think everyone has made the points they would like to make.

 

[Warchild]

the problem I see is that SW is being milked too hard and too fast. Marvel has an advantage as a franchise since you can literally roll off a full series for each and every character and almost spin off into a new world altogether,

GotG
Thor
Iron Man / humanoid heroes

SW has one universe which is vast, but there is only so much you can do to link the movies. Disney have tried to keep it going but there literally is no direction in their movies. Last Jedi is the perfect example. Its like snippets of a movie mashed together, which is why it looks like a female nobody has gone to become a master of the jedi in a short time. Last Jedi honestly could have been made into 2 or more films in itself. (ok thats really milking it, but you get what i mean).

Disney have even admitted ruining the franchise to some extent

http://whatculture.com/film/disney-admit-they-ruined-star-wars-and-how

They claim another trilogy is on the table...

Found a site that summed up some points that went against Disney. But also shows positives (just so people cut the BS that I am cherry picking what I want to see)

Bad
Disney humour thrown in.
Pointless spin offs (Solo)
Injecting political views (There are even sites also stating this so its not just me who apparently sees this)
Plot developments going no where
Contrived side plots (are they hoping to further spin these off into movies?...)
New and pointless characters that brought nothing to the movies (General Hux, Captain Phasma.. what happened to them?)

Good,
Outstanding CGI
Better acting... WAY better acting from many characters
The light vs dark force was much better portrayed which is what we always wanted
Better action sequences
Past stayed in the past. (this is prob my better agreements. They didnt drag out things from previous generations and movies)


It is like Marvel have free reign to go crazy. Lucas film just dont know what to do.. they had to do so many double shoots, their budget went way over forcing Disney to step in and curb it. To me, if a new shoot is needed, then they should be allowed to do it. Otherwise you will not get the best result. Perhaps Last Jedi would have been better, if LucasFilm had a clue what they were doing, and Disney didnt squeeze them for the result so soon. Reminds me of the different between EA publishing rushed trash, vs Witcher 3 and its insane delay but amazing result.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

Good post, Warchild.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Agreed warchild. Although I still don't think the Light vs Dark was done well, it definitely had as much with Movies 2/3 but probably better written.

It really comes down to Marvel management is just in sync as a whole. They know what they want. They have everything ready. They just meticulously do everything.
I feel like Disney and Lucas Films are not and it really shows with plot development.

 

[Dicehunter]

On topic, The reaction of the writer of the Rogue One movie, To the right, Upon hearing EA has axed yet another Star Wars game.

Full interview here, The star Wars news is at 5:52