Divide on games industry ratings

Brooksie

Brooksie

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All this game rating parent mumbo jumbo crap annoys me lol. It all began when GTA IV was released, they even used it as their picture lol.

GTA IV uses the PEGI system but I do believe GTA:SA used the BBFC. I get served 18 games that uses PEGI (only 16 :p) whereas the BBFC stands out more so their more likely to ask.

Do you prefer PEGI or BBFC? Think this is all a load of bullcrap thats pointless? :)
 
I think it is about time parents took responsibility for their children.

Basically, it has an 18 stick on it for a reason - DON'T GO AND GIVE IT TO A 8 YEAR OLD!

All down to the parents.. I quote something I heard from someone:

You wouldn't give a porn movie to a 3 year old.
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A tad extreme but it makes the point. :mad:
 
I totally agree about parents being responsible for their own kids and the actions of their children too I might add. However, myself and other parents I'm sure find it increasingly difficult in this day and age where everything is freely available.

Classification is intended to exclude crap that isn't deemed healthy for whatever age group that it covers. Furthermore, I believe that the more we become jaded or used to something, even when it isn't healthy then it paves the way for the next suspect content to pave the way. It tends to blur the black and white to a shade of grey.

There needs to be an independent government advisory that consults directly with parenting bodies and representatives of the games industry imo. Rewrite the Pegi and BBFC classifications to suit and then reinforce it with legislation
 
I've been playing 'violent' games and watching porn since before I can remember. Never hurt me. When I was an impressionable teenager I loved a few battles on Barbarian (C64) - round house decapitation anyone? but this didn't make me want to walk down the high street an start cleaving people in two (although the thought has crossed my mind a few times recently!).

My lad regulary plays COD 2/COD 4/BF 2 on the PC. He's 7 - the games are rated 15/18 iirc and thus far hasn't asked me to buy him an AK-47 to blow away his head mistress. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't give him inappropriate material (porn etc) but aslong as your child understands the difference between a game and real life there is nothing wrong with it and classification ratings are a load of :cussing:. Parental guidance, the real thing, not the classification, are the only restrictions games should have.

How you would enforce that is a tricky one - perhaps drown all chavettes at birth?
 
QFT mate. I myself have been exposed to porn, other adult related content, mature games, nudity, violence, ect ever since i can remember. I find myself to be one of the most mature people around here (where i live) and i only have good parenting to blame.
 
webbo said:
I've been playing 'violent' games and watching porn since before I can remember. Never hurt me. When I was an impressionable teenager I loved a few battles on Barbarian (C64) - round house decapitation anyone? but this didn't make me want to walk down the high street an start cleaving people in two (although the thought has crossed my mind a few times recently!).

My lad regulary plays COD 2/COD 4/BF 2 on the PC. He's 7 - the games are rated 15/18 iirc and thus far hasn't asked me to buy him an AK-47 to blow away his head mistress. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't give him inappropriate material (porn etc) but aslong as your child understands the difference between a game and real life there is nothing wrong with it and classification ratings are a load of . Parental guidance, the real thing, not the classification, are the only restrictions games should have.
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Barbarian on the C64 can hardly be compared to the games of today. Let's face it, everyone wants increased realism in games and I hardly rate games on the C64 as realistic.

My son is 8 and I would like to think that he's a well adjusted young man, but he's not allowed to play CoD, CS:S or any of those gun games because it comes out in his playtime with his siblings. Josh is still trying to get a handle on the fact that people don't just 'spawn next round' when they die in reality. This was a ruling from his mother btw :)

So you're saying that all games should remain unclassified and the only stipulation is that a parent watches them play the game? I watch my kids like a hawk on the net, but I still think games need classification. Even if it's to assist the parent with deciding whether the game should be purchased in the first place.
 
name='PV5150' said:
Barbarian on the C64 can hardly be compared to the games of today. Let's face it, everyone wants increased realism in games and I hardly rate games on the C64 as realistic.
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If u think of it in the context of what the graphics were like at the time, and that in no other game to that point u could do a spin sword move to take a guyz head clean off and have it splurt blood on the flood as it bounced.

It`s relative, but it would be like Tarrantino dev`ing computer games now.

It`s all to do with parenting. Knowing what ur kids are doing, being able to have $40 for a game, just in the same sense that schools get blamed for kid`s diets.. eh ?

Let`s be more responsible.

It`s a personal preference I guess, and it`s not going to go down well, but I wouldn`t allow any1 under 16 on the `net unsupervised. And I don`t mean automatic supervision with software. I challenge any parent to let their kid type "cheat" or "cheating" in a search engine and let them open the links.
 
I'm not blaming anyone...Never have, never will! I just think that classification will help parents make an informed decision on what their kids are exposed to.
 
name='PV5150' said:
I'm not blaming anyone...Never have, never will! I just think that classification will help parents make an informed decision on what their kids are exposed to.
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Ideally yes.
 
Kids will play 'army' or similar - always have and always will - you aint ever gonna change that as it's human nature to destroy each other. I just prefer to have my lad play it where I can keep an eye on him rather than roam the streets getting introduced to who knows what and whom.

Kids will emulate anything the see, it's how they learn but people don't seem to want to give kids credit for knowing right vs wrong, for that, the parents should be held responsible and if you don't have responsible parents no amount of classification is going to change Children getting hold of disturbing material.
 
Good points, the only real bad thing i've heard about games is when some teenager became addicted to Manhunt then went on a killing rampage. But really it is the parents fault then the parents can't face the fact that it's themselfs to blame.

But then again, that's only in some people. My dad bought my brother Age of Conan which is a quite gory game and has nudity but my brother is quite mature and doens't really care about the gore. I mean when first played it I was like "sweeeeet there heads come off" doesn't mean that i'm going to go out with a huge sword and chop someones head off lol
 
For me games offer a way of venting my anger. If there wasn't games around when I was in my teens that I could go around blowing people's heads off I would have probably done it in real life instead :p
 
name='Jim' said:
For me games offer a way of venting my anger. If there wasn't games around when I was in my teens that I could go around blowing people's heads off I would have probably done it in real life instead :p
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IF IF you could totally 100% get away with it .... I bet u an outrageously high % of people would like to take a sniper rifle up on a building with a big bag of "amo". I would.

For me it`s this thing in ur mind, actually running parallel right at the forehead section of the brain, that allows the individual decide between right and wrong actions.
 
name='PV5150' said:
directly related to the conscience? :P
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hehe ya.

Jokes aside, there was a `Discovery` channel type thing based on it, where this guy had some kind of growth or tumor at the front of his brain. As the thing got more obtuse, his differentiation between what`s right and wrong in society was deminishing.

Society cos of course if we looked at ourselves as basic animals, we`d get away with a heck of alot more.
 
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