custom water cooler 6700k.......

did some more tinkering today. I am a NewEgg egg xpert and received a Deepcool Captain 120EX for review. I put it on in place of the cpu block and left the block for the cpu tied off to the side. The reults were astonishing to say the least. With a single 120mm rad 27mm thick I hit a top end of 70c on my hottest core with a single 120 27mm thick rad I say again lol.

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I'm starting to think my block just doesnt like this cpu at all. When I had it apart a couple weeks ago for cleaning and what not I verified it was put together correctly as well as the proper jet plate being installed. Not sure what to think atm other than this block EK Supremacy just dont like this cpu at all. I have a Swiftech Apogee HD on hand as well but cant find the 115x backplate for it.
 
I'm not sure if i remember correctly, but i recall you are using qdcs?

Maybe your pump is having a little problem with restriction over all? Does turning the pump speed up make any difference?
 
Nope no qdc's at all I think they look fugly doubt it's a restriction thing as this same setup was used on my prior X79 setup without issue plus when I redid everything a couple weeks ago I put in my backup pump but neither shows any sign of lower performance. I'm thinking it's this block which was second hand when I got it in a deal with a bunch of other water cooling parts of which only the block and pump have been used in this rig at some point. Might be it's not putting the clamping force needed since adding the washer to increase force help some. I'm currently consider the raystorm pro in white as a replacement block as well as getting new tim as the tube I have is a couple years old I normally buy the big tube of mx4 as I'm always tinkering with one rig or another.
 
S_I_N said:
Nope no qdc's at all I think they look fugly doubt it's a restriction thing as this same setup was used on my prior X79 setup without issue plus when I redid everything a couple weeks ago I put in my backup pump but neither shows any sign of lower performance. I'm thinking it's this block which was second hand when I got it in a deal with a bunch of other water cooling parts of which only the block and pump have been used in this rig at some point. Might be it's not putting the clamping force needed since adding the washer to increase force help some. I'm currently consider the raystorm pro in white as a replacement block as well as getting new tim as the tube I have is a couple years old I normally buy the big tube of mx4 as I'm always tinkering with one rig or another.
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How many volts are you pushing through your CPU under load?
 
73c on hottest core with a single 120mm aio on it


1.25 vcore diwn from stock per chip of 1.295
 
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You are using the correct Stanchions from the CPU block right? obviously you get 2 sets, one for AMD socket, one for Intel. Its been that long I cant remember if its remotely possibly to use the incorrect Stanchions, but thought I would ask anyway. That temp still screams to me of bad water flow, or bad contact between the cpu block and cpu. Those volts arent that bad.
 
Warchild said:
You are using the correct Stanchions from the CPU block right? obviously you get 2 sets, one for AMD socket, one for Intel. Its been that long I cant remember if its remotely possibly to use the incorrect Stanchions, but thought I would ask anyway. That temp still screams to me of bad water flow, or bad contact between the cpu block and cpu. Those volts arent that bad.
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The standoffs are the same for AMD and 115x the only different ones are for 2011. I agree that this screams bad flow or contact but the gpu is stressed as well under realbench and stayed a frosty 35c during the retest with the aio. Also each time removed the CPU block I noted very good spread and contact. I did fail to mention that the aio test was done with the preinstalled tim. As for flow I know it's good as I can see it in the Rez circulating this was with both Rezs also noted with changing speed on pump. Plus there is still the fact I had no issues at all on the X79 setup. I'm still thinking the block is somehow at fault. I have the Raystorm Pro White Edition in my cart at PPCS along with new tim and CLU I'll be purchasing it tomorrow as a Black Friday deal I'll get 15% off my total order. Since I can't find my 115x backplate for my apogee hd. I can't try it and confirm it's the block this is why I put the 120mm aio on to test. I also have a Corsair H115i but it's on the X79 rig and since I had the 120mm aio sitting there it seemed the logical choice. Anyway I'm dragging on I did a full tear down 2 weeks ago and cleaned the CPU block as you suggested using a small blade between the slits in the cold plate. I got absolutely nothing from doing it she was clean as a whistle everything looked super clean and proper. As far as fluid goes I use a new sealed jug of distilled water every tear down as well as proper flushing of rads every time. I also rock shake tilt the whole case til I'm over confident all air has been expelled this is done with the pump at speeds 1/3/5. I don't think it's improper temp recording from sensors either as I can feel the heat coming off the rads as the air pulls thru. I'll probably lap the IHS as well when I put the new block in. Might as well now that the warranty is void.


Yes it's the core X9 delivery time played more a part over cost but cost was also considered
 
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Do you have capacitors on the left side of the socket? I for one know that they prevent my cpu block sitting on my socket smoothly as the left side of my block would sit on top of them.

I had to place the block on the cpu by angling the left side first so it could get passed the caps. I hadnt realised initially and after tightening my block to the mobo placed a nice dent in the capacitors since they were being clamped down.

Also lapping the IHS is pointless, you wont see much difference at all. The point of TIM is for the paste to get in all the irregularities of the IHS. Lapping the spreader means the TIM cant sit in the roughness areas and I bet at most you will see less than 1C difference. Not worth the time and effort to make it smooth.

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Yes there are I'll have to check tonight I'm trying to link a pic but my phones not pasting the link

 
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I linked wrong mobo lol mines the Asus z170-a


Those extra caps are not there mines free and clear and not sitting on anything
 
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Have you placed something like a razor blade on the block to make sure its not warped?

Also, have you tried rotating the block on the CPU?
 
I was going to try what some call the goofy mount but my tubing runs wouldn't allow it without kinking as far as warpage that may be the issue but tim spread has always been even. My new block tim and CLU arrive tomorrow morning. So I'll be draining again tomorrow and changing block.
 
ok so for some pics before and after the before was as I was tearing it down to show block mounted and tim spread after is the results with new block CLU under IHS and I used Grizzly Kyronaut as my new tim

block mounted old


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screenshot of new max temps I am happier to say the least



damnit still cant read it but 61c on hottest core I also added back in my push fans now to try and tame them lol during my testing I had them hooked up with my phantek's fan controller but I guess when they say 11 fans are its limit they mean it I was able to run test and try setting some new fan profiles but then it bit the dust wont power on the fans at all.


on a side note whenever I opened a program or app I saw the temps spike before like it would hit 55c just opening hardware monitor. Now it jumps from 33 to 38 lol I'm more then ever certain now my old block just did not like this cpu at all.
 
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Glad to see you are happy with it.

All this talk inspired me to tear mine down and give the block interiors some cleaning. I ran a razor blade through the fins of the block and shocked to find pain chips lodged in there. Seems bitspower delux white fittings flaked a little bit around the bottom of the threads.

My flow is now happily purring at just 30% pwm. Glad this thread came to be! :)
 
Just need to find a better way to tame the fans now I put the 7v reducers on but it's still to loud still haven't had a minute to sit and play yet but I suspect my temps in bf4 will be a lot better.
 
S_I_N said:
Just need to find a better way to tame the fans now I put the 7v reducers on but it's still to loud still haven't had a minute to sit and play yet but I suspect my temps in bf4 will be a lot better.
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If you have a little money to burn, I would suggest a fan controller.

Top choice would be the aquaaero 6/XT/LT especially if you use PWM. Otherwise Lamptron make great controllers for 3pin fans. Both allow you to attach a sensor which you can either place in your waterloop via a stop plug with built in sensor or something placed smartly in your case. Controllers can then ramp up the fans when needed based on the sensor reading.

Alternatively, the aquasuite with the aquaaero 6 allows syncronisation between its own software and AID64 meaning you can use the software sensors to monitor and control fans.
 
I can say an Aquaero is some of the best money you can spend for water cooling if you have it to spare. I love mine. There is just so much you can do with them.
 
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