Current Rig to New Rig! Opinions?

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magicc8ball

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Hey every you all seem to know quite a bit so what do you all think about the new build I am wanting to do?

Current Rig

Q6600 running at stock

Asus p5k-e

Mushkin ddr2 pc 800 4gig

artic 7 cooler

single 3870

Corsair TX750 watt power supply

A pair of 1tb Seagate 32 mb cache sata3.0gb running raid 0

As far as a new build i was looking at getting

Core I5 2500k

Asus p8p67 not sure what model( pro, evo or w.e)

Mushkin enhanced redline pc1600 8 gigs

Gigabyte 6950 or the 6970

I will be using the same power supply and hd's.

I was thinking about purchasing 2 sata 6.0gb 700 gig drives with 64 mb cache.

My questions are:

Would you buy the sata 3 6.0gb hd's? Will I gain any benefit?

What model of the Asus p8p67 do you prefer?

Or recommend me another I am open to suggestions?

What do you think about the memory is there any reason to go to 8 gigs?

I play games and well that is about it on this machine. I have had 4 gigs for 4 years and i have never tapped it out.

Down to the biggest question. What GPU?

I know i can get the 6950 and load the 6970 bios on to it.

What are your takes on this process?

I am building this rig for the new battlefield 3 coming out and Star wars the old republic.

Well and of course over clocking on air.

I have even thought about just waiting till something new comes out from amd or intel and just getting a new GPU.

Thanks for your time and suggestions!
 
CRAZYCAP said:
Others will comment in more detail but have you thought about an SSD and the GTX 570?
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I have I just do not know if the whole ssd would benefit me that much for me over a raid 0 set up? Especially if i do the sata 3 6.0gbs with the 64 mb cache. If someone can show me something on ssd compared to the set up im talking about ill take it into consideration.

About the 570. I have always been a ATI lover, and honestly if the 6950 was not out then I would think about it a little more but since i could save about a hundred and then put the 6970 bios on the 6950 to get the same speeds. I do not know this is why I posted this so it could be discussed.
 
I mean currently my read and write speeds are good for a non ssd drive

Burst speed is 311.4mg's

sequential read speed about 220mb's

and the avg read is 168mg's

Is there a good program that you all use to test the read/write speeds?
 
Theres not point getting 2 sata 3 hdd as IIRC then they do not benifit from the sata 3 ports so if i was you Id go for an ssd preferably one of pci-e 1s to get maximum speed.

As for the gfx card Id personaly get a 570 because then you get extra stuff like physX which Im sure would help in BF3 with al the physics going on in there.
 
FunkyMonkey90 said:
Theres not point getting 2 sata 3 hdd as IIRC then they do not benifit from the sata 3 ports so if i was you Id go for an ssd preferably one of pci-e 1s to get maximum speed.

As for the gfx card Id personaly get a 570 because then you get extra stuff like physX which Im sure would help in BF3 with al the physics going on in there.
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On note of the hard drives if you can find an equivalent SATA 2 hard drive then you should be buying that rather than the SATA 3 or a SATA 3 SSD as Monkey said.

But if you are buying hard drives I've noticed that SATA 2 hard drives are slowly being phased out even though they aren't capable of the extra speed SATA 3 provides.

So if you can't find a your chosen hard drive as SATA 2 anymore, it's likely it's rebranded as SATA 3.

Check for the equivalent SATA 2 drive first.

You're right about the memory if you've never used the whole 4GB then there's no point in getting more, you can always add more later if you need.

If you can buy the 6970 don't cheap out and risk flashing a 6950.

Also is there any reason you're going AMD compared to Nvidias offerings?
 
Ok well tell me about the new sata 3? is it not performing like it should or what?

Does putting a ssd into a raid give you any more performance or what?

As you all can probably guess I do not know much about ssd performance wise...

And you were also talking about getting a sata controller that plugs into a pci slot?

Is it better than using the on board controller?

If so how much faster is it going to be?

About the 6970. I have just always used ati and i enjoy using them. It is like if you prefer Ford or Chevy....

I do not know really anything about nvidia
 
magicc8ball said:
Ok well tell me about the new sata 3? is it not performing like it should or what?

Does putting a ssd into a raid give you any more performance or what?

As you all can probably guess I do not know much about ssd performance wise...

And you were also talking about getting a sata controller that plugs into a pci slot?

Is it better than using the on board controller?

If so how much faster is it going to be?

About the 6970. I have just always used ati and i enjoy using them. It is like if you prefer Ford or Chevy....

I do not know really anything about nvidia
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SATA 3 gives no performance increase for hard drives over SATA 2.

Only SATA 3 SSDs benefit from SATA 3 currently.

SSD RAID gives you extra performance but you lose TRIM, lose that and your drives performance will begin to degrade.

He was talking about getting a PCI-E SSD, they're blazing fast however I don't think they support TRIM yet at all.

The 6970 isn't a bad card however its competition in terms of pricing from Nvidia, the GTX 570, is a better card.
 
already been said but

NO- sata HDD can not go past the speeds they are now- so no different

if i was you i would get the MSI-P67A-GD55

I Think that if you flash the 6950 bios, it voids warranty? so i would just go with the GTX 560ti Oc, or gtx 570

oh and a sata 3 SSD will be good and get NH-D14 will, much better than that arctic 7 or w/e you got now

sandy bridge came out properly around 2 months ago and you want to wait for something new to come out? might have a long wait then
 
So it is not recommended to run raids with ssds due to TRIM? well that it will degrade your ssd

I tried a msi board along time ago and it was utter crap i dont know about msi now but i swore to myself i would not do it again.

ok well is sata 3 backwards compatible with sata 2?

I will look into the pci ssd as far as it having TRIM. The speeds for the PCI SSD is outrageous i want one now bad.

I think the GPU is going to be the toughest decision i have to make right now.

I am a avid ati fan and wlel you all know how that stuff goes...
 
well now why do you say that nvidia eats ati? I could say it other way around.

im just skeptical since i have been a ati nut since the x800
 
Haha is the age old question, red camp or green camp, I am also an ATI fan but I have never owned an Nvidia card. I actually have nothing against Nvidia but I have never had any problems with the ATi cards i have owned.

Has been an interesting thread thou as i didnt realise that SSD in RAID doesnt support TRIM. I bought a 60gb Vertex 2 drive with a view to buying one more and putting them in RAID0. Looks like I would be better to review my options and maybe go for a 120gb SATA3 SSD.

Goodluck with the build magicc8ball
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lol I'm actually still using the x800.

With regards to the ram, then most of the guys here say that 4GB is all you need for gaming and that its only worth going for more if your doing things like video rendering or that sort of stuff.

As far as the GPU goes then I'd have a play with this http://www.anandtech...duct/302?vs=306

I like the 6950 as it looks like is can hold it's own against the 560TI which is about the same price and if you can get it working with a 6970 BIOS then it makes it a very good value card. It can't hold up to the GTX 570 though but then that does cost a bit more, but unless you are going to add another card later though then you'd probably be better off with a couple of 6850's. If your playing games that use Physx though you should really consider a NVIDIA card. The NVIDIA cards also offer 3D gaming if your interested in that sort of thing (if you have a 120Hz monitor annd glasses) where AMD haven't really cracked this I've heard.
 
Karlos_the_n00b said:
lol I'm actually still using the x800.

With regards to the ram, then most of the guys here say that 4GB is all you need for gaming and that its only worth going for more if your doing things like video rendering or that sort of stuff.

As far as the GPU goes then I'd have a play with this http://www.anandtech...duct/302?vs=306

I like the 6950 as it looks like is can hold it's own against the 560TI which is about the same price and if you can get it working with a 6970 BIOS then it makes it a very good value card. It can't hold up to the GTX 570 though but then that does cost a bit more, but unless you are going to add another card later though then you'd probably be better off with a couple of 6850's. If your playing games that use Physx though you should really consider a NVIDIA card. The NVIDIA cards also offer 3D gaming if your interested in that sort of thing (if you have a 120Hz monitor annd glasses) where AMD haven't really cracked this I've heard.
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haha the x800 was my first card and man did i love it. Thanks for the link im going to look up some things and get it all figured out =)
 
ATI were BOSS back in the day, but nvidia 5xx v HD 6xxxx

Its obvious that nvidia are top now... I think tom said it as well in one of his vids
 
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