Corsair acquires SCUF Gaming, adding premium gamepads to its product portfolio

[WYP]

Elgato Gaming, Origin PC and now SCUF Gaming.



Read more about Corsair's acquisition of SCUF Gaming.

 

[ImprovizoR]

Why is a simple acquisition of one company by another followed by a cinematic type of trailer with the kind of music you'd expect in a summer blockbuster? What the hell is wrong with these people? It's just a gamepad.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Well scuf quality was meh.

Now it's gonna be awful. Gonna add some RGB to a stupid controller and charge an extra $50

 

[Dark NighT]

Well scuf quality was meh.

Now it's gonna be awful. Gonna add some RGB to a stupid controller and charge an extra $50

Yup this.

Corsair feels like EA, buy everything, make it worse and charge more.

 

[WYP]

Yup this.

Corsair feels like EA, buy everything, make it worse and charge more.

Are you guys just fearing that Corsair will become like EA, or do you have proof that Origin PC and Elgato are now more expensive or lower quality than before?

I'll agree that their cases have gone a little downhill, lacking much innovation while reusing a lot of the same core designs again and again, but they are selling well and it is ultimately what a lot of customers and system builders want these days.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Corsair make great PSUs still. But that's also because they just put their name on it. Which is fine and they are rock solid so I won't complain.

Everything else is just meh. They charge a premium for the brand name. I bought a Corsair keyboard because it was on sale. The Strafe 2 version. Individual RGB etc. Only got it because it was like $4 more than the normal non RGB one I was going to get. I think I paid for something that wasn't on sale. Felt like the money I spent was exactly what it should have been.

My friend bought a razer mechanical keyboard. It was far superior imo. And that's razer. Who aren't known for quality. And his was like $20 more with both not on sale.


Corsair is just using sub par materials for the money. That's my biggest gripe.

 

[WYP]

Corsair make great PSUs still. But that's also because they just put their name on it. Which is fine and they are rock solid so I won't complain.

Everything else is just meh. They charge a premium for the brand name. I bought a Corsair keyboard because it was on sale. The Strafe 2 version. Individual RGB etc. Only got it because it was like $4 more than the normal non RGB one I was going to get. I think I paid for something that wasn't on sale. Felt like the money I spent was exactly what it should have been.

My friend bought a razer mechanical keyboard. It was far superior imo. And that's razer. Who aren't known for quality. And his was like $20 more with both not on sale.


Corsair is just using sub par materials for the money. That's my biggest gripe.

Corsair's PSUs aren't rebrands, at least not the high-end models. Yes, places like OEMs like Seasonic do the manufacturing, but Corsair specs out each unit and has its own PSU R&D department.

Corsair's PSU employees are experts at component selection, that's why they hired the likes of Jon Gerow (aka JonnyGuru).

It is also worth noting that Seasonic (and other OEMs) and their customers and other component makers don't have a competitor to many of Corsair's units, which wouldn't be the case if they were all just label switches.

Even look at units like the AX1600i, which used Gallium Nitride. This material isn't used by other PSU manufacturers, which also means that the unit isn't a rebrand.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that off-site manufacturing doesn't mean that a PSU is a "rebrand". It's like saying AMD's CPUs are rebrands because TSMC built them. The term rebrand is used incorrectly these days, especially for PSUs. Yes, "rebrands" or "label-swaps" exist, but that doesn't mean that all Corsair or (insert brand here) PSUs are rebrands.

 

[Darkdayzzz]

My friend bought a razer mechanical keyboard. It was far superior imo. And that's razer. Who aren't known for quality. And his was like $20 more with both not on sale.

To be fair to all brands available: You typically can get great stuff, but sometimes bad items do slip through and you just happen to get the bad one haha.


I've had corsair stuff / razer stuff / steelseries / Roccat..I've had a lot of stuff from various brands and they all have been great. Logitech mouse had the white wear off to pink though after 2 years of usage....that wasn't good.


But my razer naga 2012 (7 year old mouse...) is working beautifully still, only complaint about it is this, and its weird to explain: When the computer first starts up (cold boot or restart; with or without the razer synapse software installed) I have to click the left click 4 times to make it become the normal double click to open something. But only the first time the computer is turned on, any other clicking is perfectly normal and any other mouse I own works just fine.


It's some sort of weird glitch with that particular mouse and the OS doesn't matter either.


Long story short : quality is a hit or miss thing, just be lucky most of what you get it solid I know i am haha.

 

[Dawelio]

Long story short : quality is a hit or miss thing, just be lucky most of what you get it solid I know i am haha.

Well I would be, if it would be solid. Just look at Corsair’s iCUE software, garbage.

Have to restart my PC like 4-5 times just to get iCUE to actually kick in properly, so I don’t have to be stuck with the whole rainbow colour animation on my keyboard all day. Since trying to still change it while here, iCUE simply says ”No device detected!”.

And this is after several tries of reinstalling the software, updating it to the latest version, unplugging and re-plugging the keyboard etc.

Just overall really annoying, especially when it’s such a big name behind it.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Corsair's PSUs aren't rebrands, at least not the high-end models. Yes, places like OEMs like Seasonic do the manufacturing, but Corsair specs out each unit and has its own PSU R&D department.

Corsair's PSU employees are experts at component selection, that's why they hired the likes of Jon Gerow (aka JonnyGuru).

It is also worth noting that Seasonic (and other OEMs) and their customers and other component makers don't have a competitor to many of Corsair's units, which wouldn't be the case if they were all just label switches.

Even look at units like the AX1600i, which used Gallium Nitride. This material isn't used by other PSU manufacturers, which also means that the unit isn't a rebrand.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that off-site manufacturing doesn't mean that a PSU is a "rebrand". It's like saying AMD's CPUs are rebrands because TSMC built them. The term rebrand is used incorrectly these days, especially for PSUs. Yes, "rebrands" or "label-swaps" exist, but that doesn't mean that all Corsair or (insert brand here) PSUs are rebrands.

I understand this. However most of their products are rebrands or at least majority sold. It's not wrong to say they are rebrands if that's what they are. I should have been more clear my apologies.

Your AMD analogy is incorrect. AMD is designing, prototyping, etc and all TSMC is doing is just working with AMD to get what AMD wants and build it. It's more of a partnership. They need each other.

Not the same as rebrand. A rebrand is taking an OEM parts and sticking your name on it. You just misused the term ironically


Now gaming chairs? Yeah pretty much all are identical. Those are definitely rebrands. I believe it was you who said none of them can even provide arm rest pads! So true!

 

[WYP]

I understand this. However most of their products are rebrands or at least majority sold. It's not wrong to say they are rebrands if that's what they are. I should have been more clear my apologies.

Your AMD analogy is incorrect. AMD is designing, prototyping, etc and all TSMC is doing is just working with AMD to get what AMD wants and build it. It's more of a partnership. They need each other.

Not the same as rebrand. A rebrand is taking an OEM parts and sticking your name on it. You just misused the term ironically


Now gaming chairs? Yeah pretty much all are identical. Those are definitely rebrands. I believe it was you who said none of them can even provide arm rest pads! So true!

The AMD/TSMC point goes too far to illustrate my point. Corsair makes a lot of PSUs that are unique to them, even though they use a different company for manufacturing. Corsair has been a big source of innovation in the PSU market. I believe they were the first to add capacitors to their cables to reduce voltage ripple, a design which has since been copied by most high-end PSU models.

As far as the chairs go, yeah, most of the companies basically use the same design from the same OEM. Just gets company logos in more places. I'd doubt that Corsair is spending any time or money on chair R&D. PSUs, on the other hand, are a big focus for them. Not many companies make SFX PSUs like Corsair.

TBH my biggest critique of Corsair ATM is that they tend to find a decent design and stick with it for years. Tonnes of their cases use the exact same internals, with the difference being the case's external shell, fan setup etc. Yes, a good design is a good design, but I'd like to see a bigger push to change things up. The downside of this is that all-new designs take time and money.

 

[Avet]

Apart from Corsair PSUs and non-RGB ML fans i wouldn't recommend their other products to anyone. All the good stuff that they have made was 2+ years ago. Now they are just some 3rd party company selling mediocre products with bling...

Interesting how tides have changed... Corsair releases crap products, Intel's CPUs aren't the best, ASUS' flagship ROG boards are just mid-range products... Many great names are caught slacking...

 

[MacLeod]

Are you guys just fearing that Corsair will become like EA, or do you have proof that Origin PC and Elgato are now more expensive or lower quality than before?

I'll agree that their cases have gone a little downhill, lacking much innovation while reusing a lot of the same core designs again and again, but they are selling well and it is ultimately what a lot of customers and system builders want these days.

Get with the times man! It's 2019, you're supposed to hate everything especially in PC/tech stuff.

Go on a PC/tech forum and find me 5 threads where people are excited and talking up a product or brand. You'll be looking a while.

Don't get me wrong, I too am wary of big companies buying up smaller, high quality ones. Same thing happened in car audio and it literally killed the industry. All the small, quality brands were swallowed up by a few large ones.... All the quality, high end products were dumbed down to the lowest common denominator and for the most part it doesn't matter what brand of audio product you buy these days as they're all basically the same. That said, I think Corsair has built up a lot of credibility with PC and gamers. This isn't the same as some generic big business buying niche companies.... This is a former niche company that got really successful.

I'm not jumping ship (no pun) on Corsair just yet.

 

[Warchild]

Get with the times man! It's 2019, you're supposed to hate everything especially in PC/tech stuff.

Go on a PC/tech forum and find me 5 threads where people are excited and talking up a product or brand. You'll be looking a while.

Don't get me wrong, I too am wary of big companies buying up smaller, high quality ones. Same thing happened in car audio and it literally killed the industry. All the small, quality brands were swallowed up by a few large ones.... All the quality, high end products were dumbed down to the lowest common denominator and for the most part it doesn't matter what brand of audio product you buy these days as they're all basically the same. That said, I think Corsair has built up a lot of credibility with PC and gamers. This isn't the same as some generic big business buying niche companies.... This is a former niche company that got really successful.

I'm not jumping ship (no pun) on Corsair just yet.

Pretty sure that every thread AMD related is praised with excitement and positive comments.

Have to disagree with that.

 

[demonking]

Big companies like Corasir ect are always managed by accountants and solicitors who are there to please 1 group of people, the investors and only worry what you think when the money stops coming in. However you look at it this is the only thing that matters, to the people running these companies, rebrand or inhouse developed products, they are all just numbers on a spreadsheet, as are you, your opinions and your money.
You want a say in these companies, invest heavily or buy them out

Pretty sure that every thread AMD related is praised with excitement and positive comments.

Have to disagree with that.

Only because they exposed Intels price gorging and made them drop their prices, no other reason.

 

[Warchild]

Only because they exposed Intels price gorging and made them drop their prices, no other reason.

So you're saying that AMDs new generation of processors with their multicore, multithread tasking that blow Intel out of the water is nothing special?

crazy...

I guess Macleod was right.

Personally given i have still yet to use an AMD product. However they shook the market up completely. Brought us more cores, more multithreading numbers, lower costs, lesser security flaws, backwards mobo compatibility, more competition.

yeah not much reason to praise them..

 

[AlienALX]

Never heard of it tbh.

Last Corsair mice I bought were £30 each. One for me one for my ex wife. Mine lasted two weeks before the scroll wheel died and hers about a month on her laptop before the cables snapped at the USB plug which was common for her on laptops.

Sticking to Logitech or Alienware now as they're the same pretty much.

 

[Warchild]

Never heard of it tbh.

Last Corsair mice I bought were £30 each. One for me one for my ex wife. Mine lasted two weeks before the scroll wheel died and hers about a month on her laptop before the cables snapped at the USB plug which was common for her on laptops.

Sticking to Logitech or Alienware now as they're the same pretty much.

SCUF make console controllers. Surprised you havent heard of them given your switch to xbox. They made customised ones lets say like the Xbox Elite controller, with additional features.

Features were nice, but quality wasnt great.

 

[AlienALX]

SCUF make console controllers. Surprised you havent heard of them given your switch to xbox. They made customised ones lets say like the Xbox Elite controller, with additional features.

Features were nice, but quality wasnt great.

Why would I when the Xbox controller is the best on the planet?

I'd love to buy a stupid expensive controller but the Microsoft ones are the best already.

That's why they're not changing it much for the new console.

 

[Dicehunter]

The AMD/TSMC point goes too far to illustrate my point. Corsair makes a lot of PSUs that are unique to them, even though they use a different company for manufacturing. Corsair has been a big source of innovation in the PSU market. I believe they were the first to add capacitors to their cables to reduce voltage ripple, a design which has since been copied by most high-end PSU models.

As far as the chairs go, yeah, most of the companies basically use the same design from the same OEM. Just gets company logos in more places. I'd doubt that Corsair is spending any time or money on chair R&D. PSUs, on the other hand, are a big focus for them. Not many companies make SFX PSUs like Corsair.

TBH my biggest critique of Corsair ATM is that they tend to find a decent design and stick with it for years. Tonnes of their cases use the exact same internals, with the difference being the case's external shell, fan setup etc. Yes, a good design is a good design, but I'd like to see a bigger push to change things up. The downside of this is that all-new designs take time and money.

It wouldn't be so bad if Corsair actually listened to their customers though, Many people including myself were asking for years for an Air 540 with a few tweaks i.e Vertical GPU bracket, Tempered glass on the side instead of plastic, Easier tool free disassembly of the front and top for the cleaning of the filters, The rest of the case was perfect, Yet they don't listen, Instead they bring out things that sacrifice on air flow for looks i.e the 680X, Looks great, Horrendous airflow.