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Cooler Master launches two new High Resolution Quantum Dot GM series Gaming Monitors
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King Mustard
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Regarding the title, I don't consider 1440p high resolution these days, and certainly not 1080p.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Considering most gamers use 1080p I'd consider it higher than average....
I'm guessing these are VA panels judging by their contrast ratios. Unfortunately I'm not interested in VA. Black smear for gaming ruins well.. gaming. I'd be more interested in IPS and take the hit on image quality.
I'm guessing these are VA panels judging by their contrast ratios. Unfortunately I'm not interested in VA. Black smear for gaming ruins well.. gaming. I'd be more interested in IPS and take the hit on image quality.
Dawelio
Active member
Yeah, the fact that IPS today goes up to atleast 165Hz and is way better in every aspect, it's a bit odd for companies to still use TN and VA for monitors.
MainSource77
New member
for high quality VA panels black smear is a thing of the past and ips cant come close to the contrast ratio VA delivers
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I'm pretty sure every VA monitor on the market would disagree with you... Even the vaunted Samsung G monitors still have some smear and they are considered the best VA panels, granted its very little however it's still present...
AlienALX
Well-known member
Being really honest I have never noticed any smearing. And I am quite a sensitive soul, and things like that would really pee me off. I have both a 144hz VA and 144hz IPS and I don't prefer either. Both of them are great. The IPS seems a bit brighter, but not so much in a better way.
As for 1080P and 1440P? those are the resolutions 99% of the gaming world uses. The pros all use 1080P still, because in stuff like PUBG if you are good and have the reactions it is literally life and death. And they will run it on a 3080Ti too on low detail.
Fact is that 4k gaming is nice in some single player games. If you even EVER intend to play over a network for anything it is simply too much. And even if you can get like, I dunno, 144 FPS out of something like PUBG then the pro running 1080p is getting three times that and you will die in every trade off.
And it's the same with the more childish Esport titles too. And given that an enormous chunk of gamers are playing those sorts of titles (because let's face it the PC is a ginger step child and nothing from the metal in single player ever comes out on it) then I think it is safe to say that won't change.
If you want 4k etc get a console. Because it is only the fact that you can run Esport titles at insane FPS levels and use a proper keyboard and mouse for them that is making the PC so popular nowadays.
If I could get really good at PUBG I would do the same thing. Drop the res, lower the detail to low and pwn. Problem is that A. I am old and my reactions are crap and B. Pro players in Germany have an advantage I can never overcome because they are where the servers are. They are based in Frankfurt, and any time I come up against a good German player with good reactions I don't see myself getting shot until I am dead. Now you can pre fire I hear, but like I said I am at a massive disadvantage.
It is the very same reason why the U.S legendary players (Choco Taco, Reid, VZNZ, Swagger, Hollywood Bob , Halifax and co) do not play on the European servers in Frankfurt, because they would get badly owned. The German players literally see them two seconds before the American players would even know what was happening.
As for 1080P and 1440P? those are the resolutions 99% of the gaming world uses. The pros all use 1080P still, because in stuff like PUBG if you are good and have the reactions it is literally life and death. And they will run it on a 3080Ti too on low detail.
Fact is that 4k gaming is nice in some single player games. If you even EVER intend to play over a network for anything it is simply too much. And even if you can get like, I dunno, 144 FPS out of something like PUBG then the pro running 1080p is getting three times that and you will die in every trade off.
And it's the same with the more childish Esport titles too. And given that an enormous chunk of gamers are playing those sorts of titles (because let's face it the PC is a ginger step child and nothing from the metal in single player ever comes out on it) then I think it is safe to say that won't change.
If you want 4k etc get a console. Because it is only the fact that you can run Esport titles at insane FPS levels and use a proper keyboard and mouse for them that is making the PC so popular nowadays.
If I could get really good at PUBG I would do the same thing. Drop the res, lower the detail to low and pwn. Problem is that A. I am old and my reactions are crap and B. Pro players in Germany have an advantage I can never overcome because they are where the servers are. They are based in Frankfurt, and any time I come up against a good German player with good reactions I don't see myself getting shot until I am dead. Now you can pre fire I hear, but like I said I am at a massive disadvantage.
It is the very same reason why the U.S legendary players (Choco Taco, Reid, VZNZ, Swagger, Hollywood Bob , Halifax and co) do not play on the European servers in Frankfurt, because they would get badly owned. The German players literally see them two seconds before the American players would even know what was happening.
Modern VA panels are way better than any IPS panels in every metric aside from color volume. Look at hardware unboxed's test on the Samsung g7 as an example. IT does remain to be seen which generation VA they will use on these monitors but VA can and actually is the best LED panel for gaming RN.
But really any modern VA panel will have so little smearing you'll probably not even notice it but it is measurable in testing. VA will still offer you the most balanced, punchy image with way higher contrast, I've seen some VA panel reach over 5000:1 contrast ratio, and that's why I always only bought VA monitors, gave an IPS to my brother and everytime I see it I'm like: "Ew" While I only see the poorer than OLED blacks on my VAs when the lights are off even teh older ones.
I would only use IPS for color critical work and only after calibrating it, I would take the smear on very rare ocasions on my oldest AOC VA monitor all day over grey dark areas 100% of the time and insulting IPS glow, with hideous light bleeding that for some reasom rearelly affects VA, and luckily doesn't affect any of my VAs
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Well actual panel testing from rtings even with the best Samsung G series monitor still talks about "noticeable" ghosting.. referring to the new G9 Mini LED.
Outside the horrible viewing angles and bad ghosting issues, sure it definitely looks better. Though I don't really care for it as when I'm playing an fps it's not very often I need those deep blacks and I definitely don't want the ghosting.
Outside the horrible viewing angles and bad ghosting issues, sure it definitely looks better. Though I don't really care for it as when I'm playing an fps it's not very often I need those deep blacks and I definitely don't want the ghosting.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Maybe not in the trendy sheeple "I must copy all the latest sayings" circles but I have heard it said fairly frequently.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Problem with most of the tests done on monitors is they are synthetic. Like, if I run the alien in the spaceship Gsync demo? the IPS does indeed look a bit better. The problem is games don't look or work like that (a low res side scrolling sprite) so tbh? it makes much less of a difference IRL.
I really expected, from what I have been told everywhere, to set up my Razer and think "Oh great now the Asus VA has to go" but completely the opposite. I do like the colour accuracy of the Razer, but sometimes it can be a bit much. There's a map on PUBG called Sanhok (I hate it now, and call it wanksock) and recently they changed the weather and stuffed up the brightness because people were claiming they couldnt see. Problem is simply that the map is designed that way. Lots of vegetation, think Viet Nam, and yeah you still get whacked by someone you totally can't see.
Making it brighter doesn't change it either.
Even on my old 32" HP VA I never noticed anything visual. And that was 70hz.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I think VA could be considered an enthusiast panel type like it is for Samsung G7's. If you play fast FPS games, VA is probably not the best. But I don't think the black smear ruins games completely; it's just not suited for competitive FPS games. If you play other types of games then it could be perfect because it allows for the curve and has deeper blacks. It has other benefits too. Ghosting is annoying for scrolling in Windows, but you get used to it. Like every panel technology, there are pros and cons.
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