Cern reveals AMD 32-core Zen CPU with 8 channel DDR4 memory

[WYP]

Cern has revealed an upcoming AMD 32-core Zen based CPU with 8 channel DDR4 memory support and PCIe 3.0 connectivity.

Read more on AMD's upcoming 32 core 64 thread Zen based server CPU.

 

[Dicehunter]

I wonder if this means the consumer market might get a 16 core 32 thread CPU then ?

Now that would be nuts ^_^

 

[AlienALX]

I wonder if this means the consumer market might get a 16 core 32 thread CPU then ?

Now that would be nuts ^_^

Just wondering if AMD have a quad socket board planned. THAT would be nuts

 

[WYP]

I wonder if this means the consumer market might get a 16 core 32 thread CPU then ?

Now that would be nuts ^_^

At the minute the biggest Zen CPU on the desktop looks like it will be 8 core, but we could be surprised.

 

[Dicehunter]

Just wondering if AMD have a quad socket board planned. THAT would be nuts

128 cores and 256 threads, I just made sex wee.

At the minute the biggest Zen CPU on the desktop looks like it will be 8 core, but we could be surprised.

I'm guessing us normal/enthusiast consumers will get quad channel memory/boards as octo channel support would just be so unnecessary for anything other than a server.

 

[NeverBackDown]

The 32 core variant is with 4 CPUs connected together by an interconnect and is meant for enterprise/HPC/servers/etc. This was rumored long before this new version of that same rumor "leaked" for consumer use. There's no market for it since no motherboard would be able to hold that large of a chip

 

[WYP]

I'm guessing us normal/enthusiast consumers will get quad channel memory/boards as octo channel support would just be so unnecessary for anything other than a server.

Hard to know really, dual channel seems most likely as the AM4 socket is for both high and low end parts.

 

[AlienALX]

At the minute the biggest Zen CPU on the desktop looks like it will be 8 core, but we could be surprised.

Intel have announced 10 core Broadwell E since then though.

Whilst having a 12 core CPU would definitely appeal to me (bit of a core hooer me) it would be pretty useless. We're not even at the point where six core CPUs are properly supported yet.

God, if you are listening, please please please let DX12 solve all of these issues.

 

[Dicehunter]

Hard to know really, dual channel seems most likely as the AM4 socket is for both high and low end parts.

I hope they do bring out a board with quad channel support so AMD can start competing with Intel on the X99 platform

 

[AlienALX]

BTW guys don't forget that Zen will also come 'ready to go' with HBM on the die too

 

[WYP]

Intel have announced 10 core Broadwell E since then though.

Whilst having a 12 core CPU would definitely appeal to me (bit of a core hooer me) it would be pretty useless. We're not even at the point where six core CPUs are properly supported yet.

God, if you are listening, please please please let DX12 solve all of these issues.

We need to remember that the AM4 socket will support both high and low end stuff.

I just don't see a low end board with a socket size that can support a 12 or 16 core CPU.

Zen's modules come in 4s, so the CPUs will be multiples in of 4, though I imagine some chips could be turned into dual cores.

I don't think AMD need to try to compete with high end X99, A solid 8-core will be enough for the consumer markets.

 

[Dicehunter]

BTW guys don't forget that Zen will also come 'ready to go' with HBM on the die too

That's the APU side though not the CPU side.

 

[AlienALX]

That's the APU side though not the CPU side.

Sure I read that they are all APUs dude.

We need to remember that the AM4 socket will support both high and low end stuff.

I just don't see a low end board with a socket size that can support a 12 or 16 core CPU.

Zen's modules come in 4s, so the CPUs will be multiples in of 4, though I imagine some chips could be turned into dual cores.

I don't think AMD need to try to compete with high end X99, A solid 8-core will be enough for the consumer markets.

It's going to be one huge socket, that's for sure ! As to how a crap board will support big CPUs? yeah that's a mystery tbh. I just hope that the same crap that happens with AM3+ doesn't happen on AM4. IE - manus lying and selling boards that 'support' 8 core chips but really don't have the phases to do so.

Maybe they can add notches so that the expensive CPUs don't fit in the cheap socket? but yeah, very good point that dude I hadn't even paid that any thought until now.

 

[WYP]

Sure I read that they are all APUs dude.

No they won't be all APUs. There will be both CPUs and APUs.

 

[Dicehunter]

It would be kind of pointless having HBM on the CPU, APU yes but not on SKU's that are just CPU's.

 

[AlienALX]

It would be kind of pointless having HBM on the CPU, APU yes but not on SKU's that are just CPU's.

Dunno dude. If there is enough of the stuff and they can make it cheaper than buying a CPU+memory I would be in. I've not done any research on HBM vs DDR4 (not even sure you can right now) but what if the HBM is like a world apart in speed terms? and what if having it sort of 'on' the CPU makes it a crap load faster?

AMD have been banging on about HSA for years now....

No they won't be all APUs. There will be both CPUs and APUs.

IMO they should put some sort of GPU on all of them. There were no AM3+ (and I got this direct from Asrock) ITX boards because Piledriver had no IGPU.

 

[WYP]

TBH there are so many unknowns right now. It is hard to tell how things will go really.

This next gen of CPUs and APUs will not be using HBM, but on the APU side they will get a boost from fast DDR4 given how much they loved fast DDR3.

HBM is too expensive right now to use in APUs, though I'm sure it is on the roadmap for AMD.

APUs with HBM have a lot of potential, especially on mobile devices and consoles where device makers like all the heat concentrated on one place for cooling and space savings.

One of the main reasons why the consoles are on AMD is that they could deliver a CPU and a GPU in one die, simplifying the design significantly. If they can add the memory on the die for future consoles then it is even simpler.

 

[Dicehunter]

TBH there are so many unknowns right now. It is hard to tell how things will go really.

This next gen of CPUs and APUs will not be using HBM, but on the APU side they will get a boost from fast DDR4 given how much they loved fast DDR3.

HBM is too expensive right now to use in APUs, though I'm sure it is on the roadmap for AMD.

APUs with HBM have a lot of potential, especially on mobile devices and consoles where device makers like all the heat concentrated on one place for cooling and space savings.

One of the main reasons why the consoles are on AMD is that they could deliver a CPU and a GPU in one die, simplifying the design significantly. If they can add the memory on the die for future consoles then it is even simpler.

I can very well see the next consoles having HBM, Hopefully anyway.

 

[AlienALX]

I can very well see the next consoles having HBM, Hopefully anyway.

Oh yeah for sure.

I want to see it on cheapish APUs though, eliminating RAM. That would be so awesome. Imagine how tiny you could make the mobo without those massive memory slots?

 

[Dicehunter]

Oh yeah for sure.

I want to see it on cheapish APUs though, eliminating RAM. That would be so awesome. Imagine how tiny you could make the mobo without those massive memory slots?

Could probably go nano-ITX