Buyers start posting benchmark results for AMD's Radeon Vega Frontier Edition

How is a desktop GPU going to have more up to date drivers than the professional drivers? :headscratch:

So it's about as good as a 1080. Not bad, but will the consumer card clock this high? because I bet they binned the crap out of the Frontier.

Oh well. I suppose it's better than nothing. The only issue I foresee (and foresaw forever ago) was that HBM2 will drive up the price so it's likely to cost as much as a 1080 and no one will buy it.

Ah well, maybe next round, AMD.
 
$999 on newegg, $1499 for the watercooled version. I hope those numbers are just placeholders on their site until the cards are actually in stock.
 
$999 on newegg, $1499 for the watercooled version. I hope those numbers are just placeholders on their site until the cards are actually in stock.

doubt it - those are the lowered "prices", they were originally something like 1199 and 1799 respectively.
 
That fire strike score is a little weak, even my stock 1070 is not far behind.

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Stock 4790K and 16GB 2133Mhz Ram too.
 
That fire strike score is a little weak, even my stock 1070 is not far behind.

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Stock 4790K and 16GB 2133Mhz Ram too.

So your 1070 with mature drivers that are designed to take as many shortcuts as possible regarding rendering (without being called out for cheating again) is almost as fast as a card with release day drivers that are designed to render as perfectly as possible?

You see, the difference between a professional graphics card and drivers and a consumer gaming card and drivers is that you, as a consumer gamer prefer performance to quality while a professional requires quality and performance is just a desirable trait.
 
How is a desktop GPU going to have more up to date drivers than the professional drivers? :headscratch:

They use a different set of drivers from consumer products that tend to get less frequent updates. Or atleast the updates don't focus on games...



No wonder they aren't giving out review samples, people already seem to be comparing these GPUs to consumer spec cards regardless. Admittedly this is AMD's fault by showing it off playing games....
 
They use a different set of drivers from consumer products that tend to get less frequent updates. Or atleast the updates don't focus on games...



No wonder they aren't giving out review samples, people already seem to be comparing these GPUs to consumer spec cards regardless. Admittedly this is AMD's fault by showing it off playing games....

I fell for it, didn't realize they were workstation cards until shortly after I posted pricing above. Also, the Frontier edition name makes me think Founders edition and incorrectly make the assumption they are targeted to the same market. I'm sure I'm not the only one who will make that mistake.
 
That fire strike score is a little weak, even my stock 1070 is not far behind.

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Stock 4790K and 16GB 2133Mhz Ram too.

That 22K Frontier Edition Graphics score is a tad underwhelming, Considering the RX cards will have the same amount of cores and most likely less memory but slightly higher clocks, This isn't looking good.

Managed just shy of 32K with the 1080 Ti I'm using.

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I don't get why people are comparing the scores when we know it's not going to represent the actual gaming versions of the cards on top of the fact this is not a reliable source... One random dude who bought it and showcasing"results" early is the same thing as an early leak from VideoCardz...
 
I don't get why people are comparing the scores when we know it's not going to represent the actual gaming versions of the cards on top of the fact this is not a reliable source... One random dude who bought it and showcasing"results" early is the same thing as an early leak from VideoCardz...

Because it's news and it gives an early look at what the GPU can do in terms of gaming, Benching etc.... should someone use it for that, No one's obviously comparing it to the unreleased Vega card which "may" be a 1080 Ti competitor.
 
*sigh*

I'm genuinely starting to believe that Vega will be dead on arrival by the time the RX models finally hit shelves.

The problem is the timing, Pascal has been around for over a year now and if Vega only just competes with it, Volta will come and destroy any (remaining) momentum its got.

Unless the RX Vega destroys Pascal and therefore on par with Volta or Volta turns out to be a great big turd. It's becoming more likely I'll get Volta instead of Vega
 
AMD has always underperformed in Fire Strike, especially at launch. Fire Strike is all about clock speed and memory speed, something AMD are not known for.

Fury X review by Guru3D at launch. Their graphics score is 16000.

980Ti review by Guru3D at launch. Their graphics score is 17000.

Compare the Fury X against the 980Ti in Resident Evil today. Guru3D records the Fury X beating the 980Ti 83 to 74 frames at 1440p. It beats it in other games as well.
 
AMD has always underperformed in Fire Strike, especially at launch. Fire Strike is all about clock speed and memory speed, something AMD are not known for.

Fury X review by Guru3D at launch. Their graphics score is 16000.

980Ti review by Guru3D at launch. Their graphics score is 17000.

Compare the Fury X against the 980Ti in Resident Evil today. Guru3D records the Fury X beating the 980Ti 83 to 74 frames at 1440p. It beats it in other games as well.

Also the fact that most synthetic benches prefer Nvidia in general. The use of insanely high tessellation and then they all won't support "Asynchronous Compute because it favors one vendor over the other". The irony is real. Then they don't even implement a good Async in time spy and it helps Nvidia more despite the fact AMD has hardware support. I don't trust or ever look at synthetic. Way to biased.

Either way, these "results" to me are bogus. I'll just continue to wait
 
That 22K Frontier Edition Graphics score is a tad underwhelming, Considering the RX cards will have the same amount of cores and most likely less memory but slightly higher clocks, This isn't looking good.

My point exactly, if this is the state of play for the supposed Frontier Edition I don't hold out much hope for the incoming Vegas :eek: time will tell. I still hope AMD knock it out the park.
 
I'm quite positive this has been said before already, but not for a while.

The jump AMD has made between generations has rarely if ever been the kind of jump Nvidia has made from Maxwell to Pascal. The 1080Ti is almost twice as fast as the 980Ti. Considering the 980Ti is widely considered faster than the Fury X, to beat a 1080Ti AMD would have to go beyond doubling its performance after only two years. That has not happened before, even with a die shrink. Why would that suddenly happen now? Pair that with the possibility that Pascal was an unplanned but very welcome byproduct of a surprisingly extremely efficient shrink of Maxwell down to 16nm and you have what many are calling AMD overhyping a product—which is just not true.

Other than the stupid "poor volta" dig in one of their promotional videos, and maybe one or two cryptic comments, AMD have not hyped Vega to be anything more than what it is. It is you, the collective community, that has decided AMD needed to beat Nvidia at every level. When has AMD made the claim that it will beat the 1080Ti?

Speaking for myself, I remember posting about six months ago that I wanted a card around €600 that performed around a GTX 1080 with a nice overclock (say, 2Ghz on the core). The only reason that has changed is because AMD has taken too long and because the 1080Ti came out. Think about that. AMD planned a GPU. That GPU was delayed. I thought it would be out by now. HBM2 or whatever dashed those plans. Then Nvidia dashed their plans further with the 1080Ti, a 1080 price drop, and the Titan Xp. That's not AMD's fault exactly is it? It is their fault for focusing on expensive technology that is before its time, but not their fault for overhyping their GPU's. The comment "I still hope AMD knock it out of the park" is part of the problem. Nvidia has already knocked it out of the park. How much further can a company hit the figurative ball? Think about that analogy. Nvidia has already knocked it out of the park. There is nowhere AMD has to go. The issue is not that AMD have made a crap GPU or that they have overhyped it. It's that it's too late and is up against unreal competition. AMD knocked it out of the park with Ryzen because its main competition was happy chatting up the chicks in the bleachers with it thick... 'bat'. Nvidia on the other hand has been killing it with essentially just a shrunk down version of their previous architecture, one that was already better than the competition.

I don't get why half the Internet is so mad with AMD. They should be mad with themselves.
 
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