Blah blah blah smoking ban in 20 days

Rastalovich

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What does it mean ?

All I see is the buzz, furory(spelling), and just now about saving £80m in Wales alone (where they reckon some 62k smokers will quit because of the ban, at an average of £2k in taxes lost though each quitter = £124m) but nothing as to banned where ?

Is it anywhere outside u`r house or public places or public buildings or what ?
 
dont think you will notice the ban much until winter hits again. I love going down one of the local pubs on a friday night, great little place. I just hate coming home smelling of fags. But this place is one of the worst i've visited.
 
name='nathan' said:
dont think you will notice the ban much until winter hits again. I love going down one of the local pubs on a friday night, great little place. I just hate coming home smelling of fags. But this place is one of the worst i've visited.

Enjoy it whilst u can, they close at an alarming r8 after bans.

name='Dav0s' said:
can someone translate that first post for me?

Het roken verbod in 20 dagen - waar?

Smoking ban.

In 20 days.

Where ?
 
Smoking has been banned in Delaware for a while. Its nice to go out to eat at a restraunt/pub without having to deal with the smoke.

But after being here for so long then going to states where you can smoke is very annoying...
 
I don't think people who smoke realise how bad it stinks.

My mum & my stepdad both smoked and the house stank. My stepdad nearly died because of something in his throat (caused by him smoking) exploded and he couldn't breathe. If I wasn't there he would have died. After he stopped he realised just how bad it stank etc. My mum has finally stopped now and I think she finally realises how bad it was.

I don't like it when I come home from a pub/gig and stink of smoke :(

Altho I guess we will all have to pay more taxes if everyone stops smoking :eek:
 
name='equk' said:
I don't think people who smoke realise how bad it stinks.

My mum & my stepdad both smoked and the house stank. My stepdad nearly died because of something in his throat (caused by him smoking) exploded and he couldn't breathe. If I wasn't there he would have died. After he stopped he realised just how bad it stank etc. My mum has finally stopped now and I think she finally realises how bad it was.

I don't like it when I come home from a pub/gig and stink of smoke :(

Altho I guess we will all have to pay more taxes if everyone stops smoking :eek:

We may not have to pay more taxes. Because now we wouldn't be paying for the health care of the smokers! ;)
 
name='Dav0s' said:
England Ban - 1st July

Wales Ban - April 2nd

N Ireland Ban - April 30th

Scotland - last March

RoI March 2004

Pubs are far better places now without a haze & stink of fags.
 
I was in a no smoking pub the other day - took me a while to realise that I didn't have the rank stench of death up my nostrils.

But then I noticed that the people in the pub had their own strange stink - the clientele was a mix of oaps and students.

I hope pubs put in some air fresheners in.

smoking ban = less smokers = less taxes. Years later the benefits of cheaper hospital costs due to having healthier people will kick in - but until then a lot of the ex-smokers will still require expensive hospital care (they're still going to die horribly). And then years on from that a lot of people who would have died before their mid 50s due to smoking caused diseases, will require long term health treatment for degenerative illnesses and will also be claiming pensions for many years.

My mum has/had 12 sisters and they all smoke(d) heavily. One by one they are all dieing of dreadfully painful illnesses. I cannot understand that if you really have people in your life that you love, that you could smoke and put your loved ones through the hell of prolonged grief.

So for the long term prognosis - we are looking forward to a bankrupt country full of healthy geriatrics. Unless chronic obesity turns out to be the hero that saves the UK.
 
name='Toxcity' said:
We may not have to pay more taxes. Because now we wouldn't be paying for the health care of the smokers! ;)

Smokers pay for that with enough left over to spend on a few tanks for Iraq.

name='old.gregg' said:
I was in a no smoking pub the other day - took me a while to realise that I didn't have the rank stench of death up my nostrils.

But then I noticed that the people in the pub had their own strange stink - the clientele was a mix of oaps and students.

I hope pubs put in some air fresheners in.

smoking ban = less smokers = less taxes. Years later the benefits of cheaper hospital costs due to having healthier people will kick in - but until then a lot of the ex-smokers will still require expensive hospital care (they're still going to die horribly). And then years on from that a lot of people who would have died before their mid 50s due to smoking caused diseases, will require long term health treatment for degenerative illnesses and will also be claiming pensions for many years.

My mum has/had 12 sisters and they all smoke(d) heavily. One by one they are all dieing of dreadfully painful illnesses. I cannot understand that if you really have people in your life that you love, that you could smoke and put your loved ones through the hell of prolonged grief.

So for the long term prognosis - we are looking forward to a bankrupt country full of healthy geriatrics. Unless chronic obesity turns out to be the hero that saves the UK.

The irony will be when there are no smokers and peoples are still dying of lung cancer, emphasima (spelling??) and increasing batches of asthma(spelling??).

Every1, including the stoopid, can verify that smoking is bad for u, that`s not up for debate.

What seems to be up for debate is that peoples think that the health service is burdened by them. I find that bizarre. Each pack (20), as verified by u`r friendly mobster-hm-customs official, carries with it £3.50-£4 in pure tax. I did the math off the top of my head in work a few years ago whilst the number of smokers in the UK was quoted on the radio (talk-sport I believe it was) - which was something like 4 million. Just do the math of an average pack a day (robbie williams reckons he smokes 3 packs, which is a total lie if u think about the timescale of a day ) x 365 x 3.75, and compare it to what the nhs spends on smoking related stuffs - which is a drop in the ocean in comparison.

The real question would be, what taxes would increase to cover what the present taxes go towards after the mere amount that goes to the nhs. There is a shortfall of some billions.

Anywho, after the wastage of a postage distribution came through the door, the ban doesn`t do anything more than I actually thought was the case at the moment.

I say let them smoke and increase the taxing. Be more concerned with the car emissions, which are a general problem rather than an obvious grouping problem.

name='BUFF' said:
Pubs are far better places now without a haze & stink of fags.

Again, enjoy them whilst u can. The ones I pass on a daily basis in the city already seem empty compared to my younger days. Those that are still open that is. Trendy wine bars are opening and closing quite a bit mind u.
 
name='Rastalovich' said:
Smokers pay for that with enough left over to spend on a few tanks for Iraq.

The irony will be when there are no smokers and peoples are still dying of lung cancer, emphasima (spelling??) and increasing batches of asthma(spelling??).

Every1, including the stoopid, can verify that smoking is bad for u, that`s not up for debate.

What seems to be up for debate is that peoples think that the health service is burdened by them. I find that bizarre. Each pack (20), as verified by u`r friendly mobster-hm-customs official, carries with it £3.50-£4 in pure tax. I did the math off the top of my head in work a few years ago whilst the number of smokers in the UK was quoted on the radio (talk-sport I believe it was) - which was something like 4 million. Just do the math of an average pack a day (robbie williams reckons he smokes 3 packs, which is a total lie if u think about the timescale of a day ) x 365 x 3.75, and compare it to what the nhs spends on smoking related stuffs - which is a drop in the ocean in comparison.

The real question would be, what taxes would increase to cover what the present taxes go towards after the mere amount that goes to the nhs. There is a shortfall of some billions.

Anywho, after the wastage of a postage distribution came through the door, the ban doesn`t do anything more than I actually thought was the case at the moment.

I say let them smoke and increase the taxing. Be more concerned with the car emissions, which are a general problem rather than an obvious grouping problem.

Again, enjoy them whilst u can. The ones I pass on a daily basis in the city already seem empty compared to my younger days. Those that are still open that is. Trendy wine bars are opening and closing quite a bit mind u.

Some good points, you might want add that because people will be living longer due to smoking less, they will be paying other taxes for longer. Not sure how this will effect on the grand scale of things.
 
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