BF4/Mantle Update

[ShaunB-91]

I'm not sure where EA are up to with their lawsuits, I don't seem to have come across any more news but I'm a happy chappy with the game now, all bugs making the game un-playable seem to have been fixed, at least for me. It took long enough.

As for the Mantle thing, I think they said they were using a 270 and a 280x in the video I originally posted, must be the same footage thats in that hour long one but I can't be bothered watching all that, their press conference when they announced Mantle was bad enough, very boring-business-meeting style.

 

[SeekaX]

Wasn't the 8350 able to be keep up with the (stock)3570k and 3770k in BF3?

saying that the 8350 keeps up with the 4770k in gaming is pretty irrelevant because the 4670k does as well. PR magic.

 

[NeverBackDown]

saying that the 8350 keeps up with the 4770k in gaming is pretty irrelevant because the 4670k does as well. PR magic.

For the 8350 it is saying a lot. Especially when the 4770k has hyperthreading and pulls ahead by about a few frames. Just makes it that little bit better than a 4670k while still being cheaper by a fair amount compared to the 4670k/4770k.

 

[SieB]

Looks like Mantle may be coming as early as this month.

 

[Zoot]

Looks like Mantle may be coming as early as this month.

That's good news.

I gather my 7950 will let me avail of Mantle, because sadly, with the scarcity of the new R9's, it looks like it'll be a while before I get my new R9 290.

 

[barnsley]

saying that the 8350 keeps up with the 4770k in gaming is pretty irrelevant because the 4670k does as well. PR magic.

Yeah I know this. If its as good as one it is as good as the other for gaming. The real 'PR magic' is the number of idiots who still think the 4770k leagues better than the i5 for gaming.

 

[Silver Sparrow]

When it comes out it would be very interesting to see how it performs on Intel and Nvidia hardware

Hopefully better than how PhysX/G-SYNC runs on AMD/Intel hardware

 

[SeekaX]

For the 8350 it is saying a lot. Especially when the 4770k has hyperthreading and pulls ahead by about a few frames. Just makes it that little bit better than a 4670k while still being cheaper by a fair amount compared to the 4670k/4770k.

the 4770k pulls ahead by about 1-3 fps compared to the 4670k. irrelevant for gaming.

 

[NeverBackDown]

the 4770k pulls ahead by about 1-3 fps compared to the 4670k. irrelevant for gaming.

You clearly did not understand my post. With the internet bagging the 8350 as a total waste and it comes out on its own to match the 4770k just makes it that much better and still cheaper. I don't care if the 4770k pulls ahead by 1-3FPS that fact that it does and the 8350 matches it shows how good it actually is. Again its cheaper and for gaming rigs it would make a difference on the savings, savings could go towards a better gpu.

 

[SeekaX]

You clearly did not understand my post. With the internet bagging the 8350 as a total waste and it comes out on its own to match the 4770k just makes it that much better and still cheaper. I don't care if the 4770k pulls ahead by 1-3FPS that fact that it does and the 8350 matches it shows how good it actually is. Again its cheaper and for gaming rigs it would make a difference on the savings, savings could go towards a better gpu.

and you didn't get my point.
anyone who puts a 4770k in his gaming rig and doesn't play games like arma has either too much money or isn't in his right mind because it doesn't make a difference to the 4670k. that's the same crap people pulled when the 290x released, hurr it's faster than a titan. so is a 780.
while you are at it, why don't you compare it in gaming to a xeon, the 8320 must be one hell of an impressive cpu to keep up in gaming with a high end xeon!

 

[Tripp]

come on ladies lets not turn this into a flame war eh

 

[SeekaX]

come on ladies lets not turn this into a flame war eh

i'm just saying that you can't compare apples to pears. i am so sick and tired of it.
the 8320's competition in games is the 4670k. it is a bit cheaper but therefor it has some issues, everybody has to decide what he'd prefer.

 

[Tripp]

i'm just saying that you can't compare apples to pears. i am so sick and tired of it.
the 8320's competition in games is the 4670k. it is a bit cheaper but therefor it has some issues, everybody has to decide what he'd prefer.

i know mate am just sick of the stupidity of this pointless flame war thats all, they are both good cpu's....... end of flame war

 

[Zoot]

i know mate am just sick of the stupidity of this pointless flame war thats all, they are both good cpu's....... end of flame war

It's funny, most CPUs have been "Good Enough" for quite some time, even for gaming.

I mean even my 4.5 year old AMD Phenom II X4 955 which isn't overclocked still gives me perfectly acceptable performance in a lot of modern games (Skyrim, Batman Origins etc.) ^_^

 

[Goldskis45]

Here is the real problem. Companys like EA.
Even if AMD and Nvidia get most of the game companies onboard with their niche stuff it will benefit the gamers but, it is always up to the game developers to utilize it. You get things like ME3 AND BF4 that they are just shoving out the door on a dirty lunch tray and these new developments will be pointless.

Don't tempt them. This is EA. They'll find something...

Yes, Yes they will.

Even tho the tally for this year's Golden Poo hasn't been taken, they are still strongly in the lead for a third in my books... (I was even a BoA customer! lol)

 

[NeverBackDown]

EA is for the most part a publisher. They have control over what Devs do and only care about the money. Its not devs fault, more along the lines of publishers.

 

[YbrFinX]

I didn't read every single post in-depth that was posted on this thread so excuse me if I'm repeating someone's words.
It might be that Mantle is going to offer significant fps boost on supported titles, but in AMD's demo there was still two incredible lag spikes + next to the green number (what I think was supposed to be the fps of the game) there was another fps reading bouncing between 30-50. Could someone give an appropriate explanation for this?
Also, I find this to be somewhat similar with Lucid Logix Virtu MVP. It definitely gives you a nice boost in performance, but I wouldn't consider it to be actual gpu performance boost via better hardware integration. For me, it currently seems more like artificial boost.
Who knows though, I might be 100% wrong as well...

 

[NeverBackDown]

I didn't read every single post in-depth that was posted on this thread so excuse me if I'm repeating someone's words.
It might be that Mantle is going to offer significant fps boost on supported titles, but in AMD's demo there was still two incredible lag spikes + next to the green number (what I think was supposed to be the fps of the game) there was another fps reading bouncing between 30-50. Could someone give an appropriate explanation for this?
Also, I find this to be somewhat similar with Lucid Logix Virtu MVP. It definitely gives you a nice boost in performance, but I wouldn't consider it to be actual gpu performance boost via better hardware integration. For me, it currently seems more like artificial boost.
Who knows though, I might be 100% wrong as well...

Its nothing like Lucid tbh. Its a whole new API. What Mantle will do is allow more things to be done with next to no performance hit or can have an insane amount of performance boost while still maintaining very high graphic settings. Or a mix of the sort. Its really up to Devs and if Publishers will allow Devs a couple of months to integrate it and then continue on from their.