ASUS Z170-WS Workstation Motherboard

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There is Enthusiast and then there is Workstation grade hardware. Have a look at ASUS' Z170-WS motherboard.

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Damn thats a helluva lot of features:p

It doesn't look that bad either because... NO RED!:D Hopefully Tom gets a review sample as I'm genuinely curious as to how good it is at OC'ing since it's a workstation grade board.
 
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"When it comes to PC hardware Workstation grade tech is always the pinnacle of stability and reliability" - so not servers then? I build data centres, this is laughable - does this motherboard have iLO/DRAC/OOBM capabilities, or duel power inputs, what about health sensors, memory slots. How about "When it comes to desktop PC hardware Workstation grade tech is always the pinnacle of stability and reliability".
 
I really like the look of those! So much better than all the 'gamer' oriented hardware that everyone is releasing right now.
 
"When it comes to PC hardware Workstation grade tech is always the pinnacle of stability and reliability" - so not servers then? I build data centres, this is laughable - does this motherboard have iLO/DRAC/OOBM capabilities, or duel power inputs, what about health sensors, memory slots. How about "When it comes to desktop PC hardware Workstation grade tech is always the pinnacle of stability and reliability".

Is a server considered a "Personal" Computer though?


Right now i'm not a huge fan of this, while it does look better than most Z170 ATX boards to date (excluding the Classified ofc), I doubt that it's going to make a great deal of sense, with 6700k's being more expensive than 5820k's why would you not choose more cores. The simple finned heatsinks on the X99 board are definitely a little more refreshing too.

I love the WS thing but this one doesn't really fit in for me, unless it comes without the insane price premium of a WS board and it can just be considered a high quality pretty Z170 board.

JR
 
"When it comes to PC hardware Workstation grade tech is always the pinnacle of stability and reliability" - so not servers then? I build data centres, this is laughable - does this motherboard have iLO/DRAC/OOBM capabilities, or duel power inputs, what about health sensors, memory slots.

is a data center spec machine really a Personal Computer?
 
Is a server considered a "Personal" Computer though?

JR

is a data center spec machine really a Personal Computer?

I guess it would depend on what it is used for, is it a personal server?Then I would argue it is a PC, is the Database for personal use?Again I would argue Yes it is a PC

I agree with JR for the Price I would undoubtedly go Socket 2011-3 considering the premium these boards fetch the enthusiast platform makes much more sense.

Also from what I have seen online ASUS "server" options are not the most reliable items, it would seem SuperMicro and ASrock beat them handily although this is purely third or even fourth hand information.
 
I guess it would depend on what it is used for, is it a personal server?Then I would argue it is a PC, is the Database for personal use?Again I would argue Yes it is a PC.

Driving a truck to the shops doesn't make it a car, while you can purpose it in a domestic situation it's still a commercial product. I don't think any manufacturer builds dual power input products in the anticipation somebody might want them in their home for some casual server thing. You could definitely argue someone was using it as a PC, however it still isn't PC hardware.

JR
 
Driving a truck to the shops doesn't make it a car, while you can purpose it in a domestic situation it's still a commercial product. I don't think any manufacturer builds dual power input products in the anticipation somebody might want them in their home for some casual server thing. You could definitely argue someone was using it as a PC, however it still isn't PC hardware.

JR

That is a good analogy and I cant argue with it, I concede this one :p
 
Of course a server isn't a personal computer. It wouldn't be called a bloody server otherwise would it?

Same goes for a Workstation.

You can usually use a Workstation for gaming, mind. Servers usually have no slots or options to run a GPU and thus would be pretty useless for gaming.

I think what Asus are saying is "Look at this smart suit and tie motherboard you can build a Workstation with" just trying to cover all of their angles and offering something for every one.

But a server? No. They're usually weird looking things that make loads of noise (hence whey they're usually confined in a room of their own)
 
Personally I don't think a WS motherboard for a consumer grade socket (and yes, I know i3s have traditionally got some more buisness spec features such as ecc ram support) really makes any sense. Especially seeing how cheap a low end x99 xeon is. I guess this is more for someone who wants a PC that runs for aages.
 
It's a nice board no doubt, but I doubt I'd be willing to pony up the cost of it. :p

First thing I notice is that it has 9 USB ports on the back, 10 if you count the USB 3.1 Type-C connector.

It's a thing I notice looking at a lot of Z170 boards. My ASRock Z170 board is pretty good here, since I've 8, counting the type-C 3.1 port, but you've only got like 5/6 ports you can use or sometimes a miserly 4 on a lot of boards.
 
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Personally I don't think a WS motherboard for a consumer grade socket (and yes, I know i3s have traditionally got some more business spec features such as ecc ram support) really makes any sense. Especially seeing how cheap a low end x99 xeon is. I guess this is more for someone who wants a PC that runs for aages.

Asus is targeting graphic artists and engineers and students in these fields who can't afford a Xeon workstation at home (which really isn't necessary anymore). A lot of people play games, surf but run a quadro card and AutoCad or Adobe. especially if they need to render in 3-D. Those of us who are too poor to buy a $6-12,000 workstation opt for a gamer board with a hot processor. Some go with gamer GPUs in Cross-fire or SLI and others go the quadro route. The latter is more expensive but some need the special drivers to do what they do.

The stability issue between workstations and pc's is really a thing of the past and there really isn't a clear dividing line anymore. (There was a time when you had to buy a co-processor to do any serious math. There was a time when you had to go the server-workstation route if you wanted to do serious rendering or even use a workstation GPU. Now that the GPU has memory, not such a big deal.)

We're looking at this board because our GB X-58A-UD7 has been giving us some grief. Think I have the MB and system stable now and hoping can make it last a little longer. It's got a i7-980x but leans more toward a workstation with a Quadro K4000 card. We use it for the Adobe gamut, CAD, and run some huge Excel workbooks. As far as stability, personally we don't overclock much but are interested in most of the same topics o'clockers are interested in. For instance, advanced cooling since a processor can be left to run at 100% for hours.

As far as running for ages, it is pretty much a different assortment of the same features on other Z170 boards, same soldering and so on. So I don't think people go this route thinking it will last for all the ages. Besides, the technology is still changing too quickly to rationally think that. Our rig is 5-6 yrs old and we're stuck with PCIe rather than PCIe 3.0 for example. I think people consider it satisfactory as an entry-to mid-level workstation these days and may go this route for budget reasons for at home or studio work especially if the same has to do for games, tv, and other PC stuff. The # of cores and clock speed issue people are bringing up is misleading. We don't need dual power supplies as mentioned earlier because we are not serving clients. What we need is the Skylake architecture including a new chipset which surpasses comparable Xeons. Intel has made the new Skylake Xeons incompatible with consumer boards and server board manufactures haven't produced much in workstation boards for the new xeon processors, especially if you want to run a solid-state SSD in a slot. We hoping that will change and the old machine can hold out until they do. With Skylake, the lower power requirements for the same output reduces the cost and complication of cooling which has also occurred for workstation GPUs. Go green ya know, it's the holidays.
 
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Asus is targeting graphic artists and engineers and students in these fields who can't afford a Xeon workstation at home (which really isn't necessary anymore).

Except Intel's current pricing for the i7 quadcore (and coupled with this board's price) makes it more expensive than going for a cheap x99 motherboard and something like a six core i7 (like the 5820k). As you said, you want it to last/be good value for money so why go for something that is less powerful for CPU based tasks?

ASUS may be targeting all those users, but at the end of the day, if you have the budget for a quad core i7 and that board then you might as well get the CPU that also supports more features out the box. IMO that is.
 
Why would anyone go for this over the X99/M WS board?

Any WS board doesnt need OC ability so why would marketing use that as a selling point?

The whole WS thing is a bit of a misnomer tbh but it doesnt stop me wanting the X99M WS....and want badly at that.

Of course a server isn't a personal computer. It wouldn't be called a bloody server otherwise would it?

Same goes for a Workstation.

You can usually use a Workstation for gaming, mind. Servers usually have no slots or options to run a GPU and thus would be pretty useless for gaming.

I think what Asus are saying is "Look at this smart suit and tie motherboard you can build a Workstation with" just trying to cover all of their angles and offering something for every one.

But a server? No. They're usually weird looking things that make loads of noise (hence whey they're usually confined in a room of their own)

Not true.

They nearly all have a least one PCI-e,normally for a networking or RAID controller card.
Servers are not workstations as you say,they tend to be a giant NAS boxes by nature. A workstation is just a focused PC dedicated to a role. People shouldnt get so hung up on names/boxes.


Also,you can run nearly all GTX cards in a workstation environment by not using signed drivers,you dont actually need to spend out on WS GPU's.....you wont get far in a professional environment tho due to error rate.
 
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