steverebo
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I've noticed, they are the only retailer with significant stock of some cards like 3070 and 3070ti. Looks like knowone is buying
Asus TUF RTX 3070 Ti @ MSRP
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I've noticed, they are the only retailer with significant stock of some cards like 3070 and 3070ti. Looks like knowone is buying
AlienALX
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Your posts contradict themselves. First we are all called salty because we can't get a GPU at all, then the prices are double. Then you go ahead and blame OCUK.
The fact is the situation sucks, and is total BS. It's easy for you to sit there with your 3080ti and pass comment on others dude, but we're not all in the same boat.
I wouldn't even mind so much if Nvidia made a statement and revised their RRP to match the prices. At least then it would be clear what's going on. We've had all these discussions before when mining was around and we universally agreed that AMD and Nvidia don't give a crap about the people who made them what they are today, the actual gamers. It's not salty to be upset about that. Being salty is being upset for no reason. Like, out of context. There is plenty of context to be had here. Especially for those who waited for Ampere because of the high prices of Turing. Which we were told were coming down.
Remember dude? "3070 beats 2080Ti for £499 !!!!oneone". Who was it who said that? oh yeah, Nvidia.
I know that liberals these days don't like people who complain and we usually get cancelled. Mostly because they want to be able to behave however they want and no one dare to say anything. But this is beyond stupid.
Steve. The only thing I can really suggest is going all in. That is what I did with my 2080ti, no regrets. Wait for something to come along, bung it on finance and etc.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapp...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-39n-sp.html
For example. I mean yeah, it's expensive, but it's the cheapest one I can find and a high end card to boot. If I was stuck right now I would probably go that route. Why pay a stupid price for a card that could run out of VRAM or what not? those prices are usually reserved for the cards that last you a while, not the mid range ones.
And don't bother with Ray Tracing. Waste of time.
steverebo
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If I had the cash or finance available that's exactly what I would do but unfortunately I just don't. The budget I have is from some money that was given to me as a gift to buy a new gaming pc as poor health forced me to sell my previous gaming rig. Its just a shame the market is state when I have some money to build a system especially as I have already managed to grab a b550i strix, 5800x 16gb of crucial c16 3600 ram along with case and sf psu for pretty reasonable prices leaving me £730 budget for a gpu. I'm even happy to pay over msrp for an rtx 3070ti which is all I really need for some 1440p gaming.
There are likely a lot of people in a similar situation to me
There are likely a lot of people in a similar situation to me
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I would never put a GPU on finance, that's terrible advice for a product that is instantly outdated and depreciates. Not only that but you are paying more for something that is already over priced.
You could do what many do and utilise getting previous Gen cards that are used. the 2xxx cards are good performers. My 2080ti is still pushing wonderful framerates. As Alien said, ignore RTX, that in itself is not worth it. DLSS however is a godsend. The used market for me sells 2080/ti cards around the 3060 price right now. I think thats good ?
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Dicehunter
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Errr.... what ? All I said is OCUK is expensive, Which is true, Most of the time you can find something on scan or box for a fair bit cheaper.
Holy hell, No idea where all that came from.
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AlienALX
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That's not true though, is it? they are all as expensive as each other. In fact, go through the AMDs, OCUK is cheaper than Scan.
Amazon have been the worst, even beating CCL.
AlienALX
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It's 0% if you have good credit.
I'd normally agree with you, as I have never financed anything for a PC, but the way GPUs are and how long they last now? I would do it if I had to.
I almost always do that with big purchases at Newegg. It's 0% financing though as long as you pay it off in time. That said, I never buy anything unless I already have the money for it (excluding vehicles and mortgages). If something is $1000 and I have 18 months to pay it off without interest I'd rather keep the money in savings and just throw $100 a month at it. If you're disciplined it's not a problem, but for some people it's a slippery slope because soon they are financing 10 things and making minimum payments on them. They then go past the terms and are stuck with ~25% interest.
One of my brothers was doing that and emptied his retirement to catch up. Now debt free he decided to buy a truck that was one and a half times greater than the credit card debt he had. So now he has no retirement and a $700/month (plus another $160/month insurance) truck payment for the next 60 months.
Dicehunter
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AlienALX
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So can I. All of the stuff I've bought from there has been cheaper than anywhere else when I bought it. Same goes for other companies, though. I recently bought stuff from Scan because they were cheaper.
I don't know what the situation is. Like, how much they are paying for these GPUs to begin with. No one does. So whether they are scalping, or getting scalped themselves? who knows. What I do know is back handers and etc are all rife to stop them getting to these suppliers in the first place because of mining.
Blame the source dude. Mining. That is what is causing this.
But yeah, it that old adage. Shop around etc.
My advice remains the same though. Buy as high end as you can, and hang onto it. I've done that for years now. In fact, had I not got itchy and bored I would still have my Titan XP and still be perfectly happy. That's one good thing about these expensive GPUs, they are really standing the test of time against graphics progress.
I really don't think these new consoles will give my 2080Ti anything to worry about at all. That means I'm good for what? 5 years? more?
It's probably the best thing that ever happened (like, consoles and PCs sharing similar hardware) because lets face it, they were never going to equip a console with a 3090 lol.
Thats exactly why I would never give finance as advice. Its so easy to slip up, or perhaps you lose your job or some circumstance pops up. Soon a simple $1000 finance escalates dramatically. For me to tell you to get it on finance, not knowing your vices (gambling etc) or your willpower to stick to the plan would leave me feeling alot of guilt.
AlienALX
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Exactly. It just lessens the shock of laying out say $1500 at once.
I knew from Turing on prices were going to rocket. I've spoken about it so many times I must sound like a cracked record. Fermi - expensive. From that moment on it was all huge shrinks, tiny dies and cheap prices. However, with the advent of RT I knew they would need to start making much bigger dies again, and, prices would rocket. And they did. And, they will continue to do so.
They should be cheaper than they are of course, but them's the breaks. Mining is doing this. Demand outstrips supply, prices rocket even more.
Which is my rationale behind buying say, that 6900XT. Firstly it will last you bloody years, due to the consoles being half or less as powerful. Secondly, the RRP on the AMD card is £999. That means it's £399 over that. A lot, right? well sort of. That's the RRP, that card isn't an AMD its high end. Meaning it would cost more than £999. Let's say in normal times £1100. Meaning you are only over paying by about 25%.
Now work down the chain, where on low end cards you are paying 100% over the odds.
Factor in longevity and etc? the smart money is on the high end cards. Especially when the 3080Ti was £1300 for a HOF like Dice has. Providing he can keep his cool and hang onto it? he will get the best value out of it.
The same goes for my 2080Tis. I got two for a total of £2100. I will likely be extremely bored of looking at them before I need to replace them.
AlienALX
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Assuming self control bro. Which I would hope many of us have, given we are sensible chaps.
IE, have the money to pay it off before you buy it, or at least enough for a few months of payments etc.
KingNosser
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PS6 is going to crush a 3090 
Always shop around that i can agree with check everywhere before making a buy.
I feel my 6800XT is going to be as well used as my 970's were so maybe another 5-6 years yet, the vram should help matters....
The tech companys are flip flopping atm on one hand it's not getting any better anytime soon then it's going to get better for everyone then it's next year it'll improve they are all over the place with false hope.
So your get what your get when you get it and hopefully at a decent price and be glad the mountain climb is over and you can relax and game fully, been playing a fair chunk of 2042 it's decent odd crash is all i've had otherwise the hovercraft is a blast just mowing down people lol it's been fun so far
Always shop around that i can agree with check everywhere before making a buy.
I feel my 6800XT is going to be as well used as my 970's were so maybe another 5-6 years yet, the vram should help matters....
The tech companys are flip flopping atm on one hand it's not getting any better anytime soon then it's going to get better for everyone then it's next year it'll improve they are all over the place with false hope.
So your get what your get when you get it and hopefully at a decent price and be glad the mountain climb is over and you can relax and game fully, been playing a fair chunk of 2042 it's decent odd crash is all i've had otherwise the hovercraft is a blast just mowing down people lol it's been fun so far
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