ASUS GTX760 Striker SLI Review

[RickPlaysWarr]

Lovely video Tom! The VRam explanation was very well done. I want a pair now. I have the VII Hero board and these would be absolutely what I want for my H440 build, unless I found a pot of gold and could get twin Matrix cards. Anyone know when they might be available in the states? Newegg does not even have a pre order yet.

--Rick--

 

[SieB]

Not too sure it is the VRAM problem, There are games out there that look better and use less VRAM, GTA4 with a few mods looks as good as WD and doesn't use 3-4GB.

It is definitely not just the Vram, I have a 4gb card and I still get the stuttering while driving even when i'm only using 3.3gb of the 4gb available.
It isn't just me either, people in threads on several forums and other places are all saying the same. It doesn't effect everyone though, some people are lucky and don't have any issues with WD at all and there are others like me that do.

 

[Dicehunter]

It is definitely not just the Vram, I have a 4gb card and I still get the stuttering while driving even when i'm only using 3.3gb of the 4gb available.
It isn't just me either, people in threads on several forums and other places are all saying the same. It doesn't effect everyone though, some people are lucky and don't have any issues with WD at all and there are others like me that do.

I've tested WD on my work mates rig, He has 2 x Titan Blacks so I know it's not a performance issue.

I know this might sound like an old argument but a lot of game devs now simply do not optimize their games well or even at all and simply rely on GPU manufacturers to optimize drivers, Annoying but quite true.

The only companies that do optimize very well are MMO devs because people are constantly on their games and those communities are VERY vocal.

 

[SieB]

I've tested WD on my work mates rig, He has 2 x Titan Blacks so I know it's not a performance issue.

I know this might sound like an old argument but a lot of game devs now simply do not optimize their games well or even at all and simply rely on GPU manufacturers to optimize drivers, Annoying but quite true.

The only companies that do optimize very well are MMO devs because people are constantly on their games and those communities are VERY vocal.

This is true but there it is definitely not just down to the Vram, like I said it doesn't effect everyone but there are a lot of people it does effect

This is with cards with 4gb or more, cards with 3gb or less it is probably the Vram but there are people getting stuttering and low performance even with 290s and Titans. It is most likely is a optimization problem, hopefully Ubisoft will release a optimization patch.

 

[metalgun2000]

Not too sure it is the VRAM problem, There are games out there that look better and use less VRAM, GTA4 with a few mods looks as good as WD and doesn't use 3-4GB.

People must remember especially El Guvonator seeing as you don't really game a lot, Ubisoft are known for terrible optimizations or lack there of.

Take Assassins Creed 4 for example, The Physx patch for Nvidia cards is terrible, I've done testing while looking at a wall, A WALL, And turned Physx off and on, Off my FPS remained at 60, On they shot down to the 30's and 40's, Looking at a wall and it gets even worse once you venture out into the world not to mention the particle effects from smoke.

Ubisoft does not do optimizations at the level of other companies, If they did we would see WD use less VRAM, Maybe not a huge amount more but definitely a lot less.

I would have to agree, vram is causing some of the problems with cards less than 3gb. I was watching videos of Xfire 290x's and SLI Titan', every time with 1080 or a higher resolution, the frames tank hard at times but not suffering quite as bad as 3gb cards. If 2 Titans or 290x's aren't up to the job than nothing is.

 

[Dicehunter]

I would have to agree, vram is causing some of the problems with cards less than 3gb. I was watching videos of Xfire 290x's and SLI Titan', every time with 1080 or a higher resolution, the frames tank hard at times but not suffering quite as bad as 3gb cards. If 2 Titans or 290x's aren't up to the job than nothing is.

It's getting quite stupid now, We are at an age where devs should be optimizing their products so they perform very well, They have the tools readily available to them they just don't see profit in doing optimizations as has been seen by nearly all Ubisoft and EA releases.

 

[tinytomlogan]

It's getting quite stupid now, We are at an age where devs should be optimizing their products so they perform very well, They have the tools readily available to them they just don't see profit in doing optimizations as has been seen by nearly all Ubisoft and EA releases.

If everything ran at 60fps on a wrist watch like COD then GPU manu's wouldnt bother with big money cards. Be thankful for shit games or you wouldnt have your 780 Ti

 

[metalgun2000]

If everything ran at 60fps on a wrist watch like COD then GPU manu's wouldnt bother with big money cards. Be thankful for shit games or you wouldnt have your 780 Ti

TTL has a point. We need games that tear the rear end out of the hardware to drive the technology forward. Solid competition is needed as well. Tonga isn't going to be the performance answer to Maxwell. I hope Maxwell lights a fire underneath AMD.

 

[Wraith]

Game devs optimise their games with what ever hardware they coded the game with at the time, they can't be expected to wait and optimise it for all GPU contingencies. That's where the GPU manu's step in with their Drivers, while Devs do their best to create a generic across the board (& Platforms) title they can't be held accountable for compatability or performance issues.

Unless it's Battlefield then it's EAs fault. :lol:

 

[tinytomlogan]

TTL has a point. We need games that tear the rear end out of the hardware to drive the technology forward. Solid competition is needed as well. Tonga isn't going to be the performance answer to Maxwell. I hope Maxwell lights a fire underneath AMD.

The original Crysis brought us things like the 3770X2 and GTX285 etc - gamings killing cards means we get epic hardware quicker.


Look at the impact AMD failing has had on Intel launches.....

 

[MadShadow]

The original Crysis brought us things like the 3770X2 and GTX285 etc - gamings killing cards means we get epic hardware quicker.


Look at the impact AMD failing has had on Intel launches.....

This is true, we need really intensive games to drive the industry forward. If only AMD would try to compete with Intel; no more of this APU stuff. We are building PCs, not consoles!

 

[RickPlaysWarr]

Look at the impact AMD failing has had on Intel launches.....

The pace of innovation did slow quite a bit. Without competition, why push? I hope this will change for the better and we can see a healthy competition again.

--Rick--

 

[SieB]

Demanding games are all well and good, but lets not mistake buggy and unoptimized with graphically demanding.

Games like BF3, BF4, Crysis 2+3 and The Witcher 2 are good examples of graphically demanding. Games like Watch Dogs, GTA IV, Arma II and Dark Souls are good examples of badly optimized and buggy.

 

[MadShadow]

Demanding games are all well and good, but lets not mistake buggy and unoptimized with graphically demanding.

Games like BF3, BF4, Crysis 2+3 and The Witcher 2 are good examples of graphically demanding. Games like Watch Dogs, GTA IV, Arma II and Dark Souls are good examples of badly optimized and buggy.

This is very true, and lets not forget DayZ standalone (sure, its in alpha), which runs like a dog

 

[Wraith]

This is true, we need really intensive games to drive the industry forward. If only AMD would try to compete with Intel; no more of this APU stuff. We are building PCs, not consoles!

Well here's hoping AMD pull something magical out of the hat with the new Athlon FX series, I'm counting on pure solid cores with non of this shared cores cluster crap that crippled the Excavators (real bad move). The architecture was there but the execution was terrible.

 

[MadShadow]

Well here's hoping AMD pull something magical out of the hat with the new Athlon FX series, I'm counting on pure solid cores with non of this shared cores cluster crap that crippled the Excavators (real bad move). The architecture was there but the execution was terrible.

Really, AMD just need to follow Intel and "borrow" some of their ideas. I dont care if Intel is always going to be slightly better, but if AMD can release cheaper, but competative CPUs, then thats all they need to do to keep competition going.

 

[Wraith]

Well they had it spot on with the Phenom x4 965 and the x6 1045t, they should have stuck with it and just improved what worked, they still give current CPUs a run for their money.

 

[smokingtommy]

i think having the silver pipes are a good thing as it will stop the retards tryings to sell it on ebay as its big brother just a thought

 

[metalgun2000]

The original Crysis brought us things like the 3770X2 and GTX285 etc - gamings killing cards means we get epic hardware quicker.


Look at the impact AMD failing has had on Intel launches.....

Crysis was the very reason there are dual core cards. Even the rig I built just to play it couldn't handle it completely. A Phenom II 955 Black and a 4870x2.

This is true, we need really intensive games to drive the industry forward. If only AMD would try to compete with Intel; no more of this APU stuff. We are building PCs, not consoles!

AMD is supposed to be working on some amazing x86 cpu architecture. They're dropping the CMT architecture and going with a SMT architecture like Intel. It's likely to have hyper threading, or so I've heard. There is some evidence of this being true, for instance the FX line didn't get the Steamroller update. Looks like AMD is hitching up their pants. They don't have to be as quick as an Intel but if it's close enough, I'll happily get one. AMD really does have some amazing engineers but as always, lacking in the capital.

 

[Agamemnon]

It looks like the shape of the shroud would obstruct a 3 or 4 way sli bridge, I am not interested in doing 3 or 4 way sli just wondering if asus have made a design mistake.