WYP
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Ubisoft desperately needs a success, and Assassin's Creed Shadows' delay proves it.
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Assassin's Creed Shadows' delay reveals Ubisoft's desperation
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Dicehunter
Resident Newb
It's going to be a hard sell considering Ghost of Tsushima 2 is coming out in the same year.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I don't think it'll affect it much. They are pretty different games.
why does delaying a game to get it right show desperation?
Mosts game we have had to be frustrated with over delays have turned into success. Witcher III, GTA V, CP2077.
Its not like they have had to go back to formula with disasters like Skull n Bones, which I actually do enjoy, its just end game is lacking.
Mosts game we have had to be frustrated with over delays have turned into success. Witcher III, GTA V, CP2077.
Its not like they have had to go back to formula with disasters like Skull n Bones, which I actually do enjoy, its just end game is lacking.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
My guess is they'd rather risk the $20 million investment for a delay to potentially obtain higher sales with a more polished release rather than rush/maintain current schedule where it may not have been 100%.
Which to me begs the notion, if they know it's not ready that means they've always known about their games release state prior to launch and released buggy games anyway. Which slightly peeves me off. Idk just a slight "conspiracy" I guess
ImprovizoR
Member
It won't affect it because it's already a hard sell. You don't give away free expansion, get rid of monetization and decide to launch on Steam on day one if you're confident in your pre-order numbers.
Some people speculated that pre-orders are very low. And Ubisoft's latest moves seem to support that theory.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Maybe the delay is in relation to the backlash from Outlaws and the negative press this game has gotten in regards to the Japanese culture being disrespected. Ubisoft is in a bad position right now. Their stocks are the lowest they've been in a long time. They are receiving a lot of negative press and criticism.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
A Japanese lady friend of mine said in relation to this -
"I'm sick and tired of westerners perverting my culture and countries history for their own agendas"
And she's right, The west thinks it has a right to do whatever it wants with other peoples cultures, Sooner or later that's going to come back to bite it in its rear end.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I find the bold ironic because they portray westerners as generally stupid and clueless. I think your friend should look at the great representation that is Ghost of Tshumia.
Regardless I don't know anything about the games poor Japanese showing, won't comment on it. Just figured I'd mention the counter point.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Oh yeah, there's hypocrisy on all fronts. That's why messaging in these things is so silly to me. It makes no sense. We're all imperfect people that make mistakes, so why throw shade or act unkindly to others? Why take a high moral stance when you're just as fallible? This is not obviously a question directed at you; it's the people on X or at Disney or wherever there's an agenda of judgement. People point fingers at others that are pointing right back at them. It's a cycle of pride and arrogance. We all make mistakes so why not learn to be patient and treat people as you would want them to treat you. If they don't, that's on them. Walk away. Again, this is not directed at you; just a thing I've noticed.
Dawelio
Active member
^ This is how I am today in general. Wasn't like that years ago, at that time I was more of "if you ain't going to be kind back, then essentially F you".
But today, I've grown into my 30's and realised that I will stay the same regardless. Since I will not lower myself to their level if they act a certain way. Essentially "If they don't, that's on them."
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
A lot of Japanese view westerners, More specifically western studios/publishers, As lazy and greedy because they have no issue co-opting other peoples culture and history, Adding their own twist on it and then profiting from it.
Now if it's done well and with respect like GoT that's different as GoT was very popular in Japan as it stayed true to their culture but recently Ubi in particular have severely peed off a lot of people in Japan for a fair few reasons but 2 of the main ones being misrepresentation of Japanese culture and that is something the Japanese hold dear and the other one is the Torri gate issue.
Ubi aren't exactly popular in Japan right now.
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Well, I have always questioned the mentality of people "pre-ordering" digital copies. I mean, are they scared they will miraculously run out of digital downloads?
Pre-orders of non physical products has been in decline, left, right and centre, with everything, not just games, as the general population finally catch on to this pointlessness. Develops try to bait you in with minimal cosmetic items making you feel more prestigious over others, but its still the same game in the end.
I think pre-order speculation will always be considered low whenever there is nothing physical to receive. Its not like a car where they will only make 30,000 in the first 6months forcing you to wait if you fail to get on the list.
The only thing I could see, that would drive pre-orders upwards, would be a cost incentive. Pre-order/become early adopter and pay XXX now, or wait for release and pay full price. Now that is something that I get into, if I knew the end product would be to my liking with or without unoptimisations.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Well, I have always questioned the mentality of people "pre-ordering" digital copies. I mean, are they scared they will miraculously run out of digital downloads?
Pre-orders of non physical products has been in decline, left, right and centre, with everything, not just games, as the general population finally catch on to this pointlessness. Develops try to bait you in with minimal cosmetic items making you feel more prestigious over others, but its still the same game in the end.
I think pre-order speculation will always be considered low whenever there is nothing physical to receive. Its not like a car where they will only make 30,000 in the first 6months forcing you to wait if you fail to get on the list.
The only thing I could see, that would drive pre-orders upwards, would be a cost incentive. Pre-order/become early adopter and pay XXX now, or wait for release and pay full price. Now that is something that I get into, if I knew the end product would be to my liking with or without unoptimisations.
Isn't this just as a matter of FOMO and impatience on the part of consumers?
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