Another Major Disappointment

[KING_OF_SAND]

AMD

 

[fcb]

AMD

Their APUs are pretty neat though. Hoping they'll release something good in their 7 series of video cards.

 

[KING_OF_SAND]

All I have heard about the 7000 series is that they aren't going to be much different than the current 6000 series. Just a di shrink and that's it.

 

[Master&Puppet]

All I have heard about the 7000 series is that they aren't going to be much different than the current 6000 series. Just a di shrink and that's it.

Seriously? So im going to have to go ivy and nvidia. What a swap.

 

[Firat]

All I have heard about the 7000 series is that they aren't going to be much different than the current 6000 series. Just a di shrink and that's it.

but isnt that good? smaller die = less heat

and we all know how hot those cards get

 

[Master&Puppet]

but isnt that good? smaller die = less heat

and we all know how hot those cards get

Well i was hoping for an extra 15-20% performance boost too!

 

[yassarikhan786]

Less heat = better overclockability. Hopefully the 7000 series fare better than bulldozer on AMD's going to s***.

 

[sheroo]

and we all know how hot those cards get

I think alot of the problems for the 6000 series cards stems from the piss poor reference coolers. I've recently got an MSI TF3 card - noise and temps are not a problem.

 

[Scoob]

Hi,

Also, wasn't it the 6000 series that was originally intended for the die shrink? I think that's the reason the 6000 series was considered mediocre at best, so not an upgrade from a 5000 really, but still certainly a good choice for someone coming from an older card. In theory I'd expect the 7000 to be more of a leap as it's moving to the tech intended.

A pure die-shrink is good for heat, power and giving us a few more mhz - so extra performance if not extra features. Really though, it's time for AMD to push things forward a little more in my view.

Same is true for nVidia of course. They did Fermi which, while ubdoubtledly powerful and a large leap in pure performance from the prior gen, was flawed regards power and heat & not making use of the full die on the high-end, but that was addressed with the 500 series. Though, once again, a 500 series card wasn't a huge pure performance leap over a 400 series, unless you were going from low- to high-end of course. Now, a faster (clocked) and even lower power/heat fermi in the 600 seies would be fairly attractive, as it is for AMD's 7000, but only for those that didn't already have the current gen tech.

I'd really like to see something more this time from both players, something that makes us want to upgrade even if we don't really need to

Cheers,

Scoob.

 

[KING_OF_SAND]

The 6000 series is what the 400 series to Nvidia was, and the 7000 is what the 6000 should have been, like the 500 series from Nvidia was to the 400.

 

[Scoob]

The 6000 series is what the 400 series to Nvidia was, and the 7000 is what the 6000 should have been, like the 500 series from Nvidia was to the 400.

It does seem that way doesn't it? nVidia have a slight advantage at the moment in many ways as they can still sell their old 400 series cards as bargain and the fact that they are a little hot and noisy is less of an issue when you're getting that level of performance cheaper. A friend of mine picked up a 480 for £170 recently. Ok, it was refurbed, but it had a years ticket on it and that's a lot of performance for the price. He did put it under water too in the end so heat and noise are not issues. Even on air though it really wasn't that bad at all, I guess the non-reference cooler took care of that.

AMD however have seen their newer products become the hot and noisy option, not a good impression to make with a new product line when the outgoing 5000 series had it pretty much bang on...also their product naming confuses me - picked up a few tricks from NV there methinks lol.

So yes, 7000 series will hopefully be what AMD intended all along with the 6000 series. NV already moved the game on by finally getting Fermi right, so there's pressure there, as well as the relative unknown that is NV's 600 series.

Just a thought but does anyone else think that, after a couple of stumbles by both parties, that they might be inclined to play things a little safer with their initial 600/7000 series releases? After all the switch to a new process is a big deal, though I'd be inclined to say "advantage AMD" here as they already did a lot of development for a die shrink that didn't happen as hoped for their 6000 series...

In isolation, really, the products from BOTH parties do offer some stunning performance at the moment, even if AMD are perceived to be running a little hotter and noisier generally at the moment after NV got the 500 series bang on after their false start with the 400's.

Cheers,

Scoob.

 

[yassarikhan786]

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Always love what you have to say Scoob

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[CRAZYCAP]

hey guys, I finally got my hands on the new AMD bulldozer performance video. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=RQWWbr6qKM0

 

[S_I_N]

AGreed totally King AMD = Another Massive Disappointment

 

[FragTek]

I'm getting one, suck it!

lol

 

[Eru]

How can you afford one? I thought in the off topic section of the forums you mentioned loosing your job? and that post was only a few weeks ago.

http://forum.overclock3d.net/index.php?/topic/38422-lets-add-insult-to-injury/

Since you obviously got back on your feet right away congradulations are in order