WYP
News Guru
There's definitely more than enough space on the package for an extra CPU chip.
Read more about AMD's potential 16-core Ryzen 3000 AM4 processor.
Read more about AMD's potential 16-core Ryzen 3000 AM4 processor.
AMD's Ryzen 3000 series could offer up to 16 cores
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I don't think heat would be a major issue in most systems, maybe tighter systems would max at the 12-core for full turbo blocks/XFR/whatever, but that 9900K is running at stock clock speed, which for that model is generally where the power draw roughly matched rated TDP, putting it at about 100W for the CPU draw (Roughly where we'd expect given it consumes around 140W in Cinebench when it can push boost clocks). AMD's total system power draw was almost 50W less than Intels, so assuming the chipset and other aspects don't have more than a 5W difference between systems, we can expect this chip to be closer to the 65W range than the 105W parts in whatever configuration they were using there.
It's only once you start to near 200W that thermal throttling starts to become an issue with modern soldered CPUs really, and this seems like you could get a 16-core part in closer to the 150W range.
I doubt they'll come with this in the first batch of processors though, isn't really any reason for it as they're only competing with themselves/ThreadRipper at that point, presumably Intel's best possible response to the 8 core would be the rumoured 10-core on 14nm, so a 12 core, maybe a 16 later, would make a lot of sense then.
It's only once you start to near 200W that thermal throttling starts to become an issue with modern soldered CPUs really, and this seems like you could get a 16-core part in closer to the 150W range.
I doubt they'll come with this in the first batch of processors though, isn't really any reason for it as they're only competing with themselves/ThreadRipper at that point, presumably Intel's best possible response to the 8 core would be the rumoured 10-core on 14nm, so a 12 core, maybe a 16 later, would make a lot of sense then.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
According to some info from other places the Ryzen shown off was a Ryzen 5.
Ryzen 3 33xx 6c/12t (single chiplet)
Ryzen 5 36xx 8c/16t (single chiplet)
Ryzen 7 37xx 12c/24t (dual 6c chiplet)
Ryzen 9 38xx 16c/32t (dual 8c chiplet)
Ryzen 3 33xx 6c/12t (single chiplet)
Ryzen 5 36xx 8c/16t (single chiplet)
Ryzen 7 37xx 12c/24t (dual 6c chiplet)
Ryzen 9 38xx 16c/32t (dual 8c chiplet)
I personally strongly doubt it, while it lines up with past rumours, those were from now discredited sources. I don't think we're going to jump straight from having 4C/8T in the R5 tier to not having 4C/8T at all and 8C/16T R5, especially given Ryzen3000G is coming alongside and tops out at 4C/8T using the same (externally) tiering scheme. If had to to speculate I'd say everything would be shifted by exactly one tier, IE:
R3- 4C/8T (as opposed to the current 4C/4T, as Athlons now have this space)
R5- 6C/12T (Only)
R7- 8C/16T, 12C/16T (12C later, aimed at content creation as most games aren't yet NUMA aware, making multi chip modules slightly problematic for now, while maintaining high clocks vs a single module will depend more on boards & cooling)
R9- 16C/32T (Later, budget content creation & prosumer)
R3- 4C/8T (as opposed to the current 4C/4T, as Athlons now have this space)
R5- 6C/12T (Only)
R7- 8C/16T, 12C/16T (12C later, aimed at content creation as most games aren't yet NUMA aware, making multi chip modules slightly problematic for now, while maintaining high clocks vs a single module will depend more on boards & cooling)
R9- 16C/32T (Later, budget content creation & prosumer)
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Could also be used for APUs. Put a small Vega die on it. Doesn't have to only be CPU
