AMD's RX 7900 XTX is reportedly designed to "scale to up to 3GHz"

A power reduction, no need for a new expensive PSU, and near enough to 4090 performance for £600 less.


Along with HDMI and DP 2.1
This will hurt (we're not selling to bitcoin farmers, lets arbitrarily increase the price) Nvidia


Bang on AMD!



arbitrarily got it right first time and no spell checker!
 
I'm really just mostly excited to do a deep dive on their architecture mostly because I can't afford these lol. It's really interesting to me how they could achieve all this just by doing a Chiplet design (obviously not the only thing) and handling latency.
 
The design of that cooler above trumps ANY Nvidia card I have seen to date.
Sleek, black, 9 blade design, somewhat slim. Id buy it just for the looks :D
 
Well considering the 6900XT regularly clocks past 2700mhz if you get the temps under control, 3ghz seems fairly "reasonable". But I seriously doubt they'll get there under air cooling. As beefy as some of these coolers look, I doubt they'll cut it. My Asus TUF 6900xt supposedly has an excellent cooler, but it's only good at stock clocks. At 2700+ mhz, it's utterly useless. AMD GPUs are like flowers, they need water to flourish. I'm guessing that pattern will hold for the 7000 series.
 
Some have reported from AIB partners that their versions will only be 3% faster in clocks than reference designs. So, unless AMD are sandbagging on purpose by claiming a 2500Mhz boost clock when it actually will reach closer to 2.9Ghz, these reports of 3Ghz are not true or Coreteks' sources from AIB partners are wrong.
 
Some have reported from AIB partners that their versions will only be 3% faster in clocks than reference designs. So, unless AMD are sandbagging on purpose by claiming a 2500Mhz boost clock when it actually will reach closer to 2.9Ghz, these reports of 3Ghz are not true or Coreteks' sources from AIB partners are wrong.

I guess it depends. I think, personally, they may have learned a lesson from releasing their products on the brink. With the price being so much cheaper due to their design I think they can certainly sand bag a little and then let people choose to make it misbehave.

As I say, at these prices they are not competing with Nvidia. Because quite simply they are a few categories lower when it comes to pricing. As such? they don't need to perform screaming their ass out.

The world has changed. Even since the 7000 series launch. And not for the better. I am hopeful they may be learning from that tbh.

That said I saw rumours the 4090 could also hit 3ghz but that too has panned out to be total BS. See this pic here.

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3.1ghz at 61c on a card that is inferior to the FE. :eek:
 
What people need to understand as well is AMD is saying the GPU itself is capable of being able to function at those clocks.

They never mentioned anything of the sort about actually being able to run the GPU at those clocks on air or AIBs. Hell they didn't even mention water either! It's all about being in the news and stirring interest.
 
It all makes sense now. This is not AMD's big card. Not yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDmHusqx0oo&ab_channel=AdoredTV

I am not exactly sure why they have done this. Maybe it is to get Nvidia to launch their Ti, then they can go in for the kill, or maybe they just weren't ready yet to unleash the beast.

I was hoping someone would post this so we could talk about it. :p

I'm not fully buying Adored's claim. There have been leaks of cards more powerful than the 7900XTX with different specifications, but no word of another die.
 
TBH I love Adored. Out of all of the trumpet blowers he is by far the most humble.

He's not really strictly saying it is definite in that video. That's not how I see it. He is just saying that on the node and etc? it is possible.

And then of course even if it were possible the elephant in the room is a £1600 price tag. Because that is what the XTX avoids.

All that said? it doesn't matter. To me this gen is just laying the ground work for Navi to become modular, and that in time will only improve ten fold. Once they start meshing smaller dies together for the main die is when the prices can tumble and they can really stick it to Nvidia like they did with Intel on their CPUs. Intel just could not compete, and in a way still can't when it comes to the cost of manufacturing.
 
TBH I love Adored. Out of all of the trumpet blowers he is by far the most humble.

He's not really strictly saying it is definite in that video. That's not how I see it. He is just saying that on the node and etc? it is possible.

And then of course even if it were possible the elephant in the room is a £1600 price tag. Because that is what the XTX avoids.

All that said? it doesn't matter. To me this gen is just laying the ground work for Navi to become modular, and that in time will only improve ten fold. Once they start meshing smaller dies together for the main die is when the prices can tumble and they can really stick it to Nvidia like they did with Intel on their CPUs. Intel just could not compete, and in a way still can't when it comes to the cost of manufacturing.

Yeah, I love watching his videos. He's quite enigmatic, and clearly puts a lot of effort into his research and scripts.

RedGamingTech is humble and modest as well. He seems like a nice guy. But 90% of his videos only need to be two minutes long yet are regularly fifteen. He waffles sooooo much. And I can't stand how he never stops saying 'interesting'. He'll quote a source, call it interesting, then say that the new architecture is going to be interesting, then finish the sentence by saying that it's going to be interesting to see how it turns out. In one sentence he's said interesting three times.

And yeah, I didn't get the vibe that Adored was saying for certain what will happen. He said at the end that if we start to see rumours of another GPU in the works that isn't a smaller chip, his prediction could be true.

£1600 for a GPU that's 30% faster than a 4090 at the same power draw is pretty stellar in my opinion. It's still terrible value, but halo products always are and always will be. I've stopped fussing over it.

Did you watch Coretek's video on the RDNA3 announcements? He was mad that RDNA3 wasn't two compute dies 'glued' together.

I don't think AMD will charge less than what they're charging now if they can get dual compute dies working as one. I think if they have a better product than Nvidia, they'll undercut them, but by just enough to make a killing. Maybe they'll try and pull a 1080Ti and sell a 5090 competitor for $800, but I doubt it. I imagine if RDNA4 comes out with something ground-breaking, it'll be expensive even if it's cheap to manufacture. Why would AMD charge less than they need to when they'll sell everything they can produce?
 
Nope I have literally only watched that. I don't watch any of the others. Like you say, too much waffle for 30 seconds of actual information. Stopped falling into that trap years ago.

AMD will eventually end up "gluing" compute dies together. That is what their scalable slide showed years ago. I would imagine their biggest issue, like with Ryzen, is the connections and lag. Once they nail that? yeah, how many dies would you like with your GPU sir?

So it's my second big upgrade of the year and again I have gone AMD. My 6800xt has been flawless in PUBG, so I got a 6700XT for the other PC at my mum's.

I still haven't totally got my head around the overclocking and ETC, but I am sure now with no Nvidia in the picture I should get that sorted soon. I will have a lot more time to tinker with the 6700XT.

And if this keeps up I can see my next two upgrades both being AMD too.
 
Nope I have literally only watched that. I don't watch any of the others. Like you say, too much waffle for 30 seconds of actual information. Stopped falling into that trap years ago.

AMD will eventually end up "gluing" compute dies together. That is what their scalable slide showed years ago. I would imagine their biggest issue, like with Ryzen, is the connections and lag. Once they nail that? yeah, how many dies would you like with your GPU sir?

So it's my second big upgrade of the year and again I have gone AMD. My 6800xt has been flawless in PUBG, so I got a 6700XT for the other PC at my mum's.

I still haven't totally got my head around the overclocking and ETC, but I am sure now with no Nvidia in the picture I should get that sorted soon. I will have a lot more time to tinker with the 6700XT.

And if this keeps up I can see my next two upgrades both being AMD too.

Nice! Did you buy the 6700XT new?
 
Well I'm glad your switch is paying off for you after the many times we had discussions.

The overclocking is simple tbh, incress the limits and set your clocks 100 apart like my 6800xt is fine at 2550>2650 above that i get crashes and lock ups. The 6700XT should clock higher but by how much idk or you can choose to undervolt but personally while it helps at stock clocks it's not really allowing me to boost higher. Mine being a custom card is picky about anything auto so i have to do it manually so that it doesn't have a hissy fit.

The only issue i've had in the last 2 drivers is updating them, downloads go's to install then half way through screens go black as normal but don't come back, so I walk away and vape for 5 mins then hard reset and when booted it's completed not sure why it's happening but there it still installs.

AMD have many options ahead with dies, I feel they will start snapping them together once they can get smaller and iron out any issues, but i also expect the size of them together to end up taking more space as it's about the only option they have from here on, but they are more sorted than nvidia are atm for the future, but i'm sure jensun will get it done within the next 1-2 gens time.
 
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Nice! Did you buy the 6700XT new?

Nah did I jeffries. Got it SH for £350. Tis a good model, though.

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Took me over an hour to cram the f-ing thing in. Suffice to say it is now staying there, and will do so through the build lmao.

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I literally had to change the screws holding the PCB to the IO panel to make it fit.
 
Nah did I jeffries. Got it SH for £350. Tis a good model, though.

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Took me over an hour to cram the f-ing thing in. Suffice to say it is now staying there, and will do so through the build lmao.

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I literally had to change the screws holding the PCB to the IO panel to make it fit.
Where'd you get it? I've been wondering whether to get a used 6700XT, but I'm hesitant to trust most sellers.
 
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