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AMD's "Pinnacle Ridge" rumoured to launch in March.
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AMD's "Pinnacle Ridge" rumoured to launch in March
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AlienALX
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IPC is fine, it's clocks they need. Broadwell E IPC plus a bit more of a bonus because SMT is better than HT was never a bad thing. But yeah, moar clocks prease.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Nice !
I'll keep my Crosshair VI Hero as it's rock solid and plop in the top end AM4 chip they release, I only run 1 x M.2 drive and 1 x GPU so X470 would be a little useless and wasted money.
I'll keep my Crosshair VI Hero as it's rock solid and plop in the top end AM4 chip they release, I only run 1 x M.2 drive and 1 x GPU so X470 would be a little useless and wasted money.
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
We've heard this before
Looking forward to it. As much as I would love to switch to this new chip from my 6700k I know for a fact I won't have the funds too.
Dark NighT
New member
I would urge a bit of restraint, the 1800x is nowhere near worth its money compared to the 1700 and i get the impression it wont be much different with the next lot
AlienALX
Well-known member
I would urge a bit of restraint, the 1800x is nowhere near worth its money compared to the 1700 and i get the impression it wont be much different with the next lot
It's worth it if you don't want to overclock or can't figure overclocking out quickly. And tbh? that means about 90% of the market.
BigDaddyKong
Active member
I am looking forward to the new chipsets. I am totally happy with my 1800X, just not the sensors on the Hero. I really hope they correct that.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Yeah I'm with Kong here. They need more than just better clocks to make it a better product. They learned so much, all the companies, there should be 0 excuse on memory issues and much better quality boards(and more ITX/MATX!) alongside better chipsets.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Yeah, it is a little too expensive IMO. It was when I got my BE Xeon too. Hopefully this time around AMD won't charge so much for practically so little.
Without sounding like a complete AMD fanboy I would at least cut them a little slack over the memory issues. It's a brand new, never been seen before technology. They are all like this at launch. In fact, when Sandy launched they had to recall practically every motherboard and change the chipset. I would rather have a few memory issues than that, and let's face it it's not like there isn't plenty of info out there telling you what type of memory to buy to avoid headaches.
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looz
Active member
Honestly the price of 1800X doesn't sting that much when 1700 and 1700X have sensible pricing. It's out there to grab the cash of those who want THE BEST. And I understand the irony of saying that as a 8700k owner.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Honestly the price of 1800X doesn't sting that much when 1700 and 1700X have sensible pricing. It's out there to grab the cash of those who want THE BEST. And I understand the irony of saying that as a 8700k owner.
Well yeah, compared to the CPU they set out to usurp they are cheap as feck. I mean the 5960x cost a cool grand, and even when the 6950x replaced it it still cost a grand. You never saw and price drops on the X CPUs.
So yeah, compared to that the £400 or so launch price of the 1800X was positively cheap. Also, you do get a sort of guaranteed 4ghz OC out of them too, so if 100mhz floats your boat it is still a good buy.
I was going to get one, but caveats.. Basically you need 3000mhz memory which I did not have in order to extract the most out of it. Whereas I could buy a 14/28 Xeon that will do 2.8ghz on all cores for £30 less and happily keep my RAM. So it was a no brainer for me..
Whilst I am on that subject. We all know that Ryzen runs much better on 3000mhz memory. That was pointed out very clearly to us right at launch. This pertains to the other thread... But yeah, you see? all open and in the open for people to understand.
And it was that fact that stopped me going Ryzen. And I'm glad I did, 'cause I saved a fortune. My CPU was £350 (at the time of print it was £30 less than a 1800X) runs in a board that cost me £117 (MSI X99 SLi Plus !) that I got in a sale on Amazon and of course the huge extra saving of £150+ for 3000mhz RAM.
So a no brainer, but only because AMD were open and honest. And the reviewers, who I would strongly guess were told all of this information before they went to press. Good info, and a real bonus, but actually steered me away from AMD.
I still think honesty is the best policy though, and likely always will
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
That's not an excuse for the next refined chip.
Also I never did say it was bad that they had issues with the first launch.
AlienALX
Well-known member
What if the issue isn't Ryzen and is actually the memory? it's not like we don't know that if you use Gskill you will have a better time of things.
But yes, I agree, it would be much better if it works with all memory types the same way.
BigDaddyKong
Active member
Another thing to think about is the Meltdown flaws. If things go really bad in the data centers and cloud circles, those Epyc and Threadripper chips could become gold. If Zen+ comes on par with Intel in the desktop circle, AMD may no longer be considered a value brand. That prices could shoot up overnight.
Avet
Active member
We've heard this before
Looking forward to it. As much as I would love to switch to this new chip from my 6700k I know for a fact I won't have the funds too.
With little progress that we have with each new platform, unless you really need some serious horse power for proper work, i don't see 6700k becoming so obsolete that you need to upgrade in a long time. Realisticly mine friends that are on 4th gen Intel and use it for gaming don't even consider upgrading.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I'm both sad and glad to see more PCI-e bandwidth for additional SSDs and other devices. One of the biggest draws for Z370 over Z370 was the extra m.2 capacity. While I don't intend to run multiple m.2 devices at this time, I would in the future and to do that I'd have to change motherboards.
As for the new CPUs, if after a year of production higher clocks aren't very easy to attain, I'd be surprised and disappointed. Also, if high speed memory isn't supported out of the box better, I'd be disappointed. However, if previous X370 and the initial generation are ignored and not continued to be updated with BIOS revisions, I'll be even more frustrated. I don't want the motherboard manufacturers and AMD to stop bothering with tweaks and improvements. I'm still waiting for a BIOS that stabilises my system perfectly.
As for the new CPUs, if after a year of production higher clocks aren't very easy to attain, I'd be surprised and disappointed. Also, if high speed memory isn't supported out of the box better, I'd be disappointed. However, if previous X370 and the initial generation are ignored and not continued to be updated with BIOS revisions, I'll be even more frustrated. I don't want the motherboard manufacturers and AMD to stop bothering with tweaks and improvements. I'm still waiting for a BIOS that stabilises my system perfectly.
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