AMD Vishera FX8350 Piledriver Review

[wotevajjjj]

could you have gotten a bad chip Tom ? tpu says they did 2400 on the ram without any problems. They even recommended it.

 

[JMMP]

The only thing in this review that stays on my mind is the part of Carmen Electra!! what a good taste Tom!!

 

[Greenback]

The problem with no competion for intel from amd is now intel can put that research money into apu where amd are and 2 years down the line there will not be an option on what you buy. Great for intel charge the earth with the slogan pay the price or play at 600x800


p.s forget the condom if she's in that much of a rush

 

[integratable]

i wonder if its even worth releasing money wise.

 

[Jeremy1998]

If it weren't for AMD's graphics cards, I would hate AMD to the core (no pun intended).

How is it that they refined the 7970 so drastically (7970GHz edition), but then they can't hardly do anything to their CPU's.

 

[Josh Weston]

I think they need to stop pussyfooting around with minor tweaks and completely overhaul the module based architecture. It's simply not a viable option.
I wonder, if they put the same money into developing the 1090T and its architecture as they did with Bulldozer/Piledriver, what kind of results we'd see.
Let's hope that companies currently invested into the mobile market, such as Qualcomm and even Apple, start developing their own chips for the desktop/enthusiast market. Maybe, then, Intel shall have some competition.

 

[Excalabur50]

Such a shame looks like AMD are dead as a cpu provider, and at the rate they are going I can't see how they can remain viable in the market place for much longer as they have all this product that no one wants to buy.
Lets just hope they are making enough money from their graphic cards to keep their doors open cause their latest cards are great.

 

[Jeremy1998]

I think what they need to understand is that we WILL buy new motherboards. They keep continuing with these 700 and something pin sockets... Intel left socket 775 so long ago.

 

[azaroth]

this really depressing, i upgraded my old phenom x4 955 BE to an fx 8150 a few months ago, its not bad but not great but it works for me, i had hoped that AMD would get it together and atleast be able to compete with an i5. i can assume that this kind of performance increase will be the same with the next two amd cpus that will be released. im sure my next rig will be intel, not a fanboy for either side but still kind of a shame to see a company go down hill so fast.

 

[CPMFW]

oh dear oh dear...

 

[nepas]

Let's hope that companies currently invested into the mobile market, such as Qualcomm and even Apple, start developing their own chips for the desktop/enthusiast market. Maybe, then, Intel shall have some competition.

Would Intel let either of those have an X86 licence(didn't they tell Nv to bugger off when they tried for one?)
Funny how you say that(Just to spin it around):

Chipmaker AMD is looking for a partner to help revive its flagging fortunes and help build some kick-ass server chips. And we think that partner is going to be ARM, the U.K. design shop that’s best known for coming up with the brains of the iPhone.
Next Monday, the day before ARM’s annual developer conference kicks off in Santa Clara, California, AMD is gathering CEO Rory Read and an unnamed “special guest” together to talk about something it calls its “ambidextrous strategy.”

AMD has indeed taken out an ARM license — for a very basic chip design called the Cortex-A5. It’s using this to develop some new security capabilities for its future client chips, but we guess that next week’s announcement is going to be about servers, and about a different, server-friendly ARM design called the Cortex-A8.

Looks like AMD may be going ARM and leaving the normal desktop market?

 

[Josh Weston]

For the right money? If they think they're no real threat? Possibly.
ARM must be doing really well right about now, what with Apple taking out a license for the architecture for the in-house iPhone 5 chip. Nice to see a UK based technology company prosper

 

[Pholostan]

Um, Vishera is nothing more than tweaked silicon based on the same basic architecture as Zambezi. And remember that it is built with the same 32 nm SOI fab process. It isn't a shrink, just a minor tweak. Pretty impressive performance gain I would say.

 

[Josh Weston]

I don't think 'pretty impressive' and 'Pile driver' can be used in the same sentence - not in a positive light, at least.
It's a bit like having a car which blows up every single day. Suddenly, a newer car comes out, and it only blows up every other day. It's an improvement, sure, but it's an improvement on something that's underwhelming, and so it in itself is underwhelming.

 

[Ralm]

I dont understand that much on CPU architecture but I wonder, if AMD cant do the hard stuff, desktop CPUs, how will they make good mobile chips??
And on top of that, what is stoping Intel to just go in and destroy everyone again in mobile, since they can do the best chips in the world atm?

Im really sad about this and honestly I dont really care about AMD because they dont seem to have the right objectives or care in their products. What I would like to see is a new brand getting out some kick ass products, but thinking on the money you need to do it, I dont think it will happend in a near future.

Too bad for us, the consumers.

 

[Rastalovich]

I look at this in a slightly different way. It's another step in "a" correct direction for AMD. An architectural overhaul and coming out with the 8150, which I also didn't think was that-bad a cpu when you look at it from an existing AMD customer's pov. This 8350 I think is another step, maybe a nudge, in the same direction.

Comparing it to the Intel equiv. of course it falls down, but in my eyes it's still a very decent and capable cpu. Not for workstations..... yet.

Would like to see the cpu only scores for the gaming benchtests. (this is where someone points out I missed that graph)
Would also like to see a Windows 8 bunch of testing, as AMD have made some boasts for that over 7.

AMD, sort out the memory bandwidth, something they used to be champions at. Sort out the power usage. And maybe the next evolution will be that much better again.

Let's keep in mind, just thinking of Intel for a mo, that it took a huge wedge to drag alot of people from the 775 socket, and will take a bigger wedge to move them from the likes of the i7-2600. Justifiable upgrading from the same camp isn't easily done.

For the person buying from scratch, there's no reason to look at the 8350 too closely. If you "ended up" with one in a package, they're not too bad.

 

[dugdiamond]

all-in-all the Piledriver is a good CPU... for the average gamer/user.

you all have to remember that we (the members) at OC3D are not the average people sat in front of mediocre computers. we are way beyond that

and this offering, from the red corner, can be summed up in one word: "MEH!"

 

[Rastalovich]

"MEH!"

That's a fair comment.

 

[Ralm]

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you all have to remember that we (the members) at OC3D are not the average people sat in front of mediocre computers. we are way beyond that

and this offering, from the red corner, can be summed up in one word: "MEH!"

Agree

Although atm, in my intership, Im in front of a crappy iMac from 2009 with 1GB DDR2 memory lol

 

[Hawk]

I feel the same way as Tom. It would be really nice for some competition. Look at the GPU industry for example, From the previous 500 and 6000 series from Nvidia and AMD the new models are an unreal improvement.