AMD Ryzen+Vega CPUs unboxed in China
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WYP
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Yeah. I can't wait to see these in action.
Daiyus
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Nice. My current HTPC is using an A10-6800k which does the media job plenty well, but fails pretty hard with games. When it does bite the dust it's good to know there will be a decent AMD replacement on the market that'll actually allow me to play some basic games on the big screen.
WYP
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Something like that wouldn't work well on DDR4, not enough bandwidth. Such a chip would need integrated HBM2 or something, which would be a little too big and expensive sadly.
Anything much bigger will always have problems because dedicated GPUs exist and because of chip size restraints (increased cost).
WYP
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April, I think.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
These are APUs right? Seems like lots of people think it's a full Ryzen chip with an added on GPU?
WYP
News Guru
AMD is not calling them APUs anymore, but yes, they are a CPU and a GPU on a single die.
These CPUs have a quad-core Ryzen module (no inter CCX nonsense) and a Radeon Vega GPU in a single unit.
AlienALX
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It's sorta both. In theory it's a Ryzen CPU with a small Vega 'infinity fabriced on'. But, that makes it an APU.
Either way entry level gaming should once more be available without a GPU which is awesome.
At some stage (when it is perfect) I am going to build a weeny little rig running Supermodel (Sega emulator, not perfect yet and no GUI) and have it on my TV pumping out Daytona 2 and SCUD Race.
Ahhh, how happy I shall be
WYP
News Guru
Thanks for the info WYP
Yeah, deffo April. (Just to be 100% clear)
https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_ma..._ryzen_and_threadripper_2nd_generation_cpus/1
The Ryzen APUs will not be Zen+ on 12nm but will offer some of the improvements, like higher possible memory clocks and precision boost 2.
g0ggles1994
Active member
Will be nice to see these benched alongside the i3s and i5s in both CPU and iGPU performance. Still wondering how they've upped the clocks and added the iGPU while not increasing the TDP
AlienALX
Well-known member
Refinements. Apparently their initial 12nm sucked because they were getting used to the whole thing. Remember, Zen was completely new from the ground up.
Kinda like how the first 920s sucked (I7) C0? something like that, or may have been D0. They were the ones to avoid.
g0ggles1994
Active member
Aye I guessed refinements would be a big factor in it, just the whole adding the iGPU as well hasn't raised the TDP at all. I'd say it's either a really low power Vega chip or the refinements really are magical
AlienALX
Well-known member
Aye I guessed refinements would be a big factor in it, just the whole adding the iGPU as well hasn't raised the TDP at all. I'd say it's either a really low power Vega chip or the refinements really are magical
AMD are very good at it to be fair. Vishera was a massive, massive upgrade over BD. 15% IPC and it clocked to stink. 5ghz stock CPUs. And that was just from refining it over time. Even 8320s would do 4.7ghz all day.
xescromwell
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i am surprised cause since several years, i hear : CPU are limited, all caculs ll do by GPU, and now AMD take the opposite stance.
Ok it s for low applications but it s a real suprise
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Ok it s for low applications but it s a real suprise
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AlienALX
Well-known member
i am surprised cause since several years, i hear : CPU are limited, all caculs ll do by GPU, and now AMD take the opposite stance.
Ok it s for low applications but it s a real suprise
That depends on resolution. At 1080p you need a very fast CPU. At 4k? you don't. Not yet any way. Having said that if a game engine does thread well you will get better results with more cores (as we are seeing now). So I guess it will always be a balance of both.
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