AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX appears on Newegg - Pricing Revealed
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Dicehunter
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Knowing UK prices it'll probably be a 1:1 conversion and cost £1799.99.
demonking
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That's not far off a 7980ex anyways
Dicehunter
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True and I can bet Intel will price their 28 core CPU as close to what the 2990WX costs as possible so the 2990WX needs to be a decent price.
demonking
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Gotta wonder, if they do they will have to start bringing down the price of their other parts, if they don't they risk losing more and more market share.
If AMD are really smart, they will offset some of their licenceing fees for the Chinese chips against theyre profits on they're skus and be able to make those even cheaper. This would really make Intel look at they're whole marketing system. But the accountants will probably see it as an easy revenue and take the 100% profit.....
evil_m3nace
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It doesn't cost much to build that chip at all, their 1800 pricing is just to twiddle their nose at Intel. The cost to make it is the same as their lowest threadripper because the silicon is the same. Considering that each of their silicon processors is a bit under 100 bucks each and the substrate that they use is probably about 50 to 100 dollars. Then the fancy packing is about the same amount or less. In total they probably cost about 500-600 bucks each. Amd is making an absolute killing on threadripper.
reactor_au
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Well it would definitely be a solid upgrade from my old 3770k@4.5ghz
Your forgetting the R&D my friend, production of a chip is not the only cost... Billions went into employing staff to to get the product family to where it is today......
AlienALX
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OK so can I be the first one to sort of complain about this? I've done some calculations (easy tbh) and it just sorta seems a bit crap to me.
OK, so basically as we know TR CPUs are basically Ryzen units stacked together, each containing 8 cores. Well, unless something serious has been changed since the original TR.
So we see this, right?
$329.99. We then multiply it by four and get $1,319.96
So why does it cost more than the price of four Ryzen 8 core CPUs? Now OK it comes in the snazzy box, right? but the 8 core Ryzens come with four coolers and four boxes. So surely that would cost more than just this snazzy container?
Look, I know it is "cheap" compared to Intel but logically it just doesn't add up to me at all.
I also strongly imagine that the price will drop pretty quickly too, as TR1 did. So hey, we will see I guess.
OK, so basically as we know TR CPUs are basically Ryzen units stacked together, each containing 8 cores. Well, unless something serious has been changed since the original TR.
So we see this, right?
$329.99. We then multiply it by four and get $1,319.96
So why does it cost more than the price of four Ryzen 8 core CPUs? Now OK it comes in the snazzy box, right? but the 8 core Ryzens come with four coolers and four boxes. So surely that would cost more than just this snazzy container?
Look, I know it is "cheap" compared to Intel but logically it just doesn't add up to me at all.
I also strongly imagine that the price will drop pretty quickly too, as TR1 did. So hey, we will see I guess.
evil_m3nace
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This is including the R&D. I'm taking the bass cost of making the ryzen, the substrate that threadripper/eypc sits on, and the packaging. The R&D is spread over millions of chips so it only comes down to a couple of dollars per processor chip that amd makes
evil_m3nace
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OK so can I be the first one to sort of complain about this? I've done some calculations (easy tbh) and it just sorta seems a bit crap to me.
OK, so basically as we know TR CPUs are basically Ryzen units stacked together, each containing 8 cores. Well, unless something serious has been changed since the original TR.
So we see this, right?
$329.99. We then multiply it by four and get $1,319.96
So why does it cost more than the price of four Ryzen 8 core CPUs? Now OK it comes in the snazzy box, right? but the 8 core Ryzens come with four coolers and four boxes. So surely that would cost more than just this snazzy container?
Look, I know it is "cheap" compared to Intel but logically it just doesn't add up to me at all.
I also strongly imagine that the price will drop pretty quickly too, as TR1 did. So hey, we will see I guess.
Because there literally isn't anything like it on the market.
Amd can charge whatever they want for it and there still won't be competition.
WYP
News Guru
OK so can I be the first one to sort of complain about this? I've done some calculations (easy tbh) and it just sorta seems a bit crap to me.
OK, so basically as we know TR CPUs are basically Ryzen units stacked together, each containing 8 cores. Well, unless something serious has been changed since the original TR.
So we see this, right?
$329.99. We then multiply it by four and get $1,319.96
So why does it cost more than the price of four Ryzen 8 core CPUs? Now OK it comes in the snazzy box, right? but the 8 core Ryzens come with four coolers and four boxes. So surely that would cost more than just this snazzy container?
Look, I know it is "cheap" compared to Intel but logically it just doesn't add up to me at all.
I also strongly imagine that the price will drop pretty quickly too, as TR1 did. So hey, we will see I guess.
The long story short is that everything in Threadripper needs to be created with finer tolerances and that higher quality CPU dies are required for manufacturing.
With 8-core Ryzen, AMD's processors need fewer PCIe lanes, and all of those inter-die connection areas can be non-functional. With Threadripper, things need to work a lot better; all those interconnects need to work, requiring the use of fully functional Ryzen dies that can achieve high clock speeds.
Moving onto the CPU itself, mounting four individual dies to a substrate is not an easy task and neither is soldering all four of them while maintaining the correct pressure thoughout. Engineering and manufacturing tolerances need to be super fine here, which adds to production costs. Beyond that, there is the additional testing, validation and R&D costs to consider.
With higher cost products, AMD needs to increase their margins. What is the point of selling a bigger product if you only make the same margins as a smaller, easier to produce, product?
Finally, there is competition, if AMD's product is super competitive when priced at $1,799, why price it any lower? Companies need to make money after all. AMD has the option to lower pricing if they need to, but why would they if they can sell similar numbers at the current price?
AlienALX
Well-known member
Oh yeah I know they are binned and all that.
I just think that nearly every one doesn't need it. Which is completely true of course, however, if the price was lower I am sure many would just get it any way.
I also know that apparently there isn't anything like this on the market (when there sort of is but they are $8000 each) but for most there just isn't the need for 32/64. 8/16 is more than enough for now.
I just want AMD to sell more of them. I know that TR didn't sell all that well (just by looking around me tbh) at least not to us lot. And this is, apparently, a HEDT product so yeah.
I'm pretty confident that the price will drop though. It did with TR, quite substantially too. Would be amazing to see these coming in at a grand.
Dawelio
Active member
Lol? Have you taken a look at AMD’s 1700, 1700X, 1800X etc?... Works just as fine, as about the same power consumption, while most likely having better temperatures (due to being soldered).
looz
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Volume.
Darkdayzzz
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The fact that the guy/gal would even THINK about using TR for strictly gaming is just, ahem, stupid as can be.
Buy an 8700k or similar Ryzen model (like the 2700x) and spend the money you save on a GPU and be done with your gaming rig for years to come.
Unless you plan on doing design/editing/video/conversion work a normal user that games even all the time should never have a need for TR (if ONLY using it for gaming).
