AMD Ryzen 7 1700 CPU Review
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AlienALX
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Yup spot on. Can't say I didn't warn them
I was pretty sure the 1700 was going to be the CPU to get, but damn i didn't expect AMD to release three redundant CPUs at a higher pricepoint. Can't deny that i am enjoying all the gloating i get to do now though.
AngryGoldfish
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The 1800X and 1700X still have a market. A lot of consumers don't want to or know how to overclock. They don't even build their own systems. They just want the best performance for the money without any tweaking. The 1800X undeniable offers that.
AlienALX
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For weeks and weeks before it even launched I said the 1700 would be the enthusiast's CPU. Of course you get your brand whores who want the highest model because they think it sounds like more but they are all pretty much identical. Jayz got 100mhz more out of an 1800x (4.1ghz) and I have seen some hit 4.2, but for the most part there is absolutely bugger all difference, especially with the price gap. $189 for some air
Very tempted to basically sell my 5820k and board and replace with a 1700 and board. I think I will wait until the 350 Arctic comes out though.
AngryGoldfish
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For weeks and weeks before it even launched I said the 1700 would be the enthusiast's CPU. Of course you get your brand whores who want the highest model because they think it sounds like more but they are all pretty much identical. Jayz got 100mhz more out of an 1800x (4.1ghz) and I have seen some hit 4.2, but for the most part there is absolutely bugger all difference, especially with the price gap. $189 for some air
Very tempted to basically sell my 5820k and board and replace with a 1700 and board. I think I will wait until the 350 Arctic comes out though.
In Jay's recent video of him using the 1800X to render a video against a 5960X he says the 1800X at 4Ghz is half the price of the 5960X but renders a 25 minute video only two minutes slower. But a 1700 is a third the price of a 5960X and you'd be at the lower end of the silicon if you couldn't hit 4Ghz with a 1700. It really is a beast in that way.
AlienALX
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It's the one I am looking to get. Just not sure if/when it will happen tbh.
AngryGoldfish
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I'll likely get something from the R5 range. I've seen a couple of early benchmarks with cores disabled on the 8 core models and it wasn't great, but it'll be so cheap that I don't mind that much. I can pick up a high-end X370 motherboard (Taichi and C6H are the two main contenders right now) and an R5 1600 and overclock it as much as possible. Come next year I'll pop in an 8 core from the refresh that hits higher clock speeds and be happy for a few years.
I'm still not completely sold on Ryzen, but I really don't want to buy a 7700K when a 6 core version is but a year away. It's a huge middle finger by Intel to be honest. All the reviewers (including TTL) keep recommending the 7700K for gamers, which I solely am, but it ruffles my feathers too much to know that a year from now Intel will replace the 7700K with a CPU that should have already been out by now and will demolish the 7700K. If Z270 could fit the new Coffee Lake CPU's then I'd buy a 7600K for cheap now just to tide me over and then buy the i7 next year, but I can't do that so AMD is looking the more sensible bet.
NickOmega
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Is this the "350 Arctic" you're talking about?
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B350-TOMAHAWK-ARCTIC.html#productFeature-section
AlienALX
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Yupper. Just waiting for it to release. Sadly it doesn't have the IO cover the Intel one does but other than that I love it.
NickOmega
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White boards aren't really for me, but that doesn't look too bad tbh. Also I'm not really sure why but I've always been wary of MSI boards.
Yeah i had a look and could only find it for pre-order on Scan.
EDIT: I quite like the understated aesthetic of this one: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X370-SLI-PLUS.html#productFeature-section
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AlienALX
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Thanks for the heads up on Scan. Price is chuffing good, as the Intel one is £145 or so. Mind you, it does have the lovely IO shield...
I'm not going to spend more than that on a board. Extreme overclocking is non existent, and the 350 boards have more than enough features for me
I'm not going to spend more than that on a board. Extreme overclocking is non existent, and the 350 boards have more than enough features for me
Avet
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TTL has never recommended i7-7700k for gaming. Nor do the other reviewers. They always say to go for 7600K, and put extra money in GPU or monitor, or go to a pub.
(TTL recommends used parts often which can save you a lot of money)
i7-7700K is still damn good CPU. Technology is so refined. Intel probably put Kaby lake in the market because they want to finish next generation and get it out bug free, and not suffer like AMD now. They have a product that can fill the gap. So why not?
If you don't want to upgrade now, don't. At the moment that is the market situation. What will come in a year or two who knows.
AngryGoldfish
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Sorry, I meant to say the 7600K, not the 7700K.
Edit: 'Nother correction. Tom's video suggests the 7600K. Other reviewers say the 7700K.
Edit: 'Nother correction. Tom's video suggests the 7600K. Other reviewers say the 7700K.
AlienALX
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This is why I am going for 1700x instead of a 1700 chip. The X brand eats less power in this speeds, so it may cost 100 and 170 euros less, but you pay that in your electricity company with the 1700 cpu. In the long term, you earn that money with 1700x or 1800x.
That's completely wrong.
Nice to see you're so misinformed.
Some reviews said that for 1080p, but once you go up from there, the difference is marginalized a LOT. Plus, at 1080p, the 4 cores get pinned at almost 100% in certain games, therefore you have no headroom at all. I'm going Ryzen 1700 for reasons much like yourself, to give Intel a pair of middle fingers.
Excalabur50
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I like most people I suspect, knew the 1700 was going to be the sweet spot with these CPU's and it was a great review Tom
Makes me real keen now to see what the R5 series is going to bring to the table
Makes me real keen now to see what the R5 series is going to bring to the table
