How much do you need to cool your new Ryzen 1500, 1600x or 1800x? Will your cooler stand up well to overclocking?
AMD Ryzen 5 & 7 CPU Cooler Round Up
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AMD Ryzen 5 & 7 CPU Cooler Round Up
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How much do you need to cool your new Ryzen 1500, 1600x or 1800x? Will your cooler stand up well to overclocking?
AMD Ryzen 5 & 7 CPU Cooler Round Up
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Such a shame for a low temp limit. This kinda hurts the argument that AMD platform is cheaper right now since you need to invest into a strong cooler to maintain the OCs most people aim for
WYP
News Guru
But at the same time how many people overclock on X99 without a large cooler.
I do agree with you, raising the thermal limit with Ryzen 2 would be fantastic, as it could allow even basic air cooling to handle higher overclocks/voltages. If it were 80 Degrees I think even the Cryorig H7 would have passed OC testing on the 8-core.
Greenback
Active member
Thanks for all the work Tom and your helping hands, Was interesting how little difference between the 12v and 7v think I'd go for a little warmer quieter system.
Tbh I'd think if your looking at overclocking either Intel or AMD you'd most lightly look at an AIO
Tbh I'd think if your looking at overclocking either Intel or AMD you'd most lightly look at an AIO
Streetguru
New member
I use the $25 Hyper T4 to cooler my R7 1700 at 3800-3900mhz @ 1.4V and it seems to work just fine, granted I've upgraded the fan to a 140mm High Pressure Venturi fan, but it's probably not too much better than the stock fan. fan ran at 100% RPM, controled by a Sentry Mix 2 fan controller, super handy to have btw
Rarely breaks 60C running in a hot shed.
I would highly recommend a deepcool gammax 400 instead though, as it has cut outs to fit RAM, i wouldn't be able to put RAM into the 1st slot if I needed to upgrade to 32GBs, since I can't turn the heatsink on AM4 anyways.
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
most enthusiasts would, but not everyone will. Especially those people buying the 1600/x CPUs. Either way, spending all that money on a cooler hurts the "cheaper" argument people, including me, would use. It'll still end up cheaper of course than an intel system, but still more money is still more money.
Excalabur50
Active member
You can't really use that argument though NBD as most people now are going for AIO it's only the real budget conscious that use air now and as Tom proved you can use a cheaper AIO and still get decent results
And besides people are putting AIO on their Intel systems too so all the pricing is relative so AMD is still cheaper
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
You missed my point, it is still expensive compared to just an air cooler. So yes AMD is less expensive when both are using AIOs, but the issue is it still is more money when including it. Cheaper yes, but at a higher price point.
I doubt most people use AIOs now, Air Cooling is still cheaper. If the Ryzen limit was higher, Air Cooling would be an even better choice to the majority of people who want a Ryzen system as I suspect most are on a budget. The people who are buying Ryzen 7, are more likely to get an AIO, but the budget gamer going for the Ryzen 5 chips are less likely to do so.
I doubt most people use AIOs now, Air Cooling is still cheaper. If the Ryzen limit was higher, Air Cooling would be an even better choice to the majority of people who want a Ryzen system as I suspect most are on a budget. The people who are buying Ryzen 7, are more likely to get an AIO, but the budget gamer going for the Ryzen 5 chips are less likely to do so.
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Excalabur50
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You may be right but I just had a look here and prices on a fair whack of the AIO's you can buy aren't much more or are in some cases cheaper than some of the upper end air coolers from Noctua and Coolermater and even Cryorig so unless you want a cheapy air cooler then you aren't really saving much if anything and I personally wouldn't recommend to anyone to buy a cheap cooler unless their budget really couldn't stretch that far for something better as let face it cooler temps = longer life generally speaking, although yes you can argue that is subjective too 
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Again, if someone is on a budget, I doubt they would be a buying either a top end Air Cooler or a low-end AIO. They'd probably stick around the Cryorig H7 or Hyper 212 range. Which in the US is about $30-$50 after taxes. That range is quite a bit less than $80(should be higher, but benefit of the doubt and all)-$165 after taxes. Very large difference.
And since they are sticking to a cheaper option, the limited Ryzen range is sort of a kick in the butt. Now OCCT is going to get higher temps than any game and probably most software(editing, etc), but I am just saying it would be nice for a slightly extended increase in temp limit
And since they are sticking to a cheaper option, the limited Ryzen range is sort of a kick in the butt. Now OCCT is going to get higher temps than any game and probably most software(editing, etc), but I am just saying it would be nice for a slightly extended increase in temp limit
dihartnell
New member
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
As long as you don't go nuts on the volts I would say it shouldn't be bad. Just make sure the airflow is setup well so the hot air gets out asap and doesn't sit around heating everything else up
Daiyus
Member
Thanks for the advice. I'm planning on having two 80mm fans on the top edge of the motherboard exhausting air directly out of the case with the C1 pulling cold air straight through the side panel.
I suppose I might not be able to get that magical 4GHz but it still won't be a slouch.
With that cooler youll probably be lucky to get 3.6 tbh - assuming you want it quiet too. Manual volts will be a must.
Daiyus
Member
Hmm. I wonder how easy it is to make a CLC from custom watercooling components; as in using quick-release fittings and an external reservoir when setting up but then removing the reservoir for operation. I don't have space for a reservoir but I could squeeze two slim radiators with slim fans and a pump in.
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AlienALX
Active member
You would not be able to remove the res. Not without draining the loop. Well, unless you use QDC and they are expensive. What you are better off doing is having a fill port. Then you don't need a res. To make a fill port you need to fit a 3 way T piece in front of the pump return (so the water can feed in and be pumped around) with a straight piece of tube coming up to a fill port so you can put the coolant in.
I am about to do this to my rig called Riff Tamson. Keep an eye on the log. I do have a res, but, it needs to be looped up in situ and the top cap is blocked by the res above. So I am going to fit a fill port so I can fill the res "remotely". However, there is no reason why it would not work in a "resless" loop. The only other thing to ponder is that the coolant expands when it is hot and shrinks when cool so you would need to fit some sort of relief valve. However, you could just screw that into the fill port's G 1/4.
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WYP
News Guru
At 7V fans are fed less power and spin at lower RPMs. This will make the system quieter, though the reduced airflow will allow temperatures to increase.
silverninja54
New member
Old Corsair H100i
Im running an old Corsair H100i old style with AM3 mounting brackets on my Ryzen 1800x rig. I changed out the Corsair fans for Cougar fans which are half the sound levels of Corsair and my rig is running at between 30 - 40 degrees without the offset taken off, overclocked to 4Ghz it runs between 40 - 50 without the offset taken off under load overclocked it runs at 70 degrees on stress tests w/o offset taken off.
Im running an old Corsair H100i old style with AM3 mounting brackets on my Ryzen 1800x rig. I changed out the Corsair fans for Cougar fans which are half the sound levels of Corsair and my rig is running at between 30 - 40 degrees without the offset taken off, overclocked to 4Ghz it runs between 40 - 50 without the offset taken off under load overclocked it runs at 70 degrees on stress tests w/o offset taken off.
