AMD Radeon RX480 Polaris 8GB Review

After watching tom's last video, the untapped performance from the GPU once the power delivery and thermals are sorted. Will the RX 490 be a 480 with more power delivery and better cooling? A pair of 6 pins and may be an AIO cooler like the FuryX. The same silicone but different card and cooling???

Just speculation on my part but we know the RX 490 is coming and this might answer the question of how they are going to do it.
 
Pendragon said:
After watching tom's last video, the untapped performance from the GPU once the power delivery and thermals are sorted. Will the RX 490 be a 480 with more power delivery and better cooling? A pair of 6 pins and may be an AIO cooler like the FuryX. The same silicone but different card and cooling???

Just speculation on my part but we know the RX 490 is coming and this might answer the question of how they are going to do it.
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No. What you described is what aftermarket cards will do and an AIO for a $199 GPU is rather absurd.

490 will be Vega 10. Which will replace the Hawaii chips. Vega 11 will replace Fiji, so the fury line. Hopefully they change that name.
 
Its kind of annoying that AMD is going with a single 6pin. Would have much preferred an 8pin. Pretty much everyone is going to be able to meet a single 8pin requirement.

Seems like they only did it to appease the morons who think the pins are everything when it comes to efficiency.

AMD better get this power issue sorted asap, otherwise their second overclockers dream is going to be just as bad as the previous one. Its fine as stock, but overclocking.... More crap nVidiots can use to fling around.

Other than that, seriously dont get why people would diss the RX 480. Its a good value card that will last much longer than a gtx 970 with barely 3.5GB of vram, throw in the inferior DX12 performance and there is more or less no reason anyone should go with a 970 over a RX480. Unless of course the 970 is almost half the price of an RX480.
 
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Kushiro said:
Its kind of annoying that AMD is going with a single 6pin. Would have much preferred an 8pin. Pretty much everyone is going to be able to meet a single 8pin requirement.

Seems like they only did it to appease the morons who think the pins are everything when it comes to efficiency.

AMD better get this power issue sorted asap, otherwise their second overclockers dream is going to be just as bad as the previous one. Its fine as stock, but overclocking.... More crap nVidiots can use to fling around.

Other than that, seriously dont get why people would diss the RX 480. Its a good value card that will last much longer than a gtx 970 with barely 3.5GB of vram, throw in the inferior DX12 performance and there is more or less no reason anyone should go with a 970 over a RX480. Unless of course the 970 is almost half the price of an RX480.
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They more than likely went with a 6pin to keep OEMs happy. Also to help change there bad perception that they are power hungry GPUs. So basically they went from one extreme, to the other. From being way to power hungry to not having enough. But they also probably knew that AIBs will end up changing it anyway, so 1) why waste the money and 2) show off the insane OCs it can hit when not limited. That is assuming they do OC well, but there's nothing yet to show they can't, since we are power limited atm. This in turn also changes there perception that they are bad OC'ers, again assuming they can hit high clocks. I'd say if they can hit 1500+ then we can see some pretty darn good results. Probably match a Nano/980 easy at those clocks.
 
like i said on youtube, if amd had lowered the clocks then no one would be complaining about power bottleneck, tom said he underclocked the card and it was the same score in tests. and increasing the power gave higher scores without increasing the mhz.
So its more like the clocks are set for the max power draw. and they just didnt set the power at that level, and then didnt change the clocks back down.
i dont see much of an issue with it.
its like they did the 1st few steps of an overclock. found a voltage point where it was stable and not losing performance and then just limited the power.

if they had reduced the clocks to match the power usage, then you would have had to increase the clocks as well as the power to get higher scores. as it is you only need to increase the power.
 
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Honestly seeing how my older nVidia card has mysteriously lost performance over the two years (based on me benchmarking it, 1000 points less on 3dmark lmao) i've had it makes me question why people would go for an older nVidia card over a newer amd gpu. Sure the 970 was a decent option against the 390, especially if you wanted a card that would be quieter and use less power. Against the 480 however I personally don't really see it as all that viable unless you're already running a 970. AMD's drivers are SO much better than they were even a year ago too.

If AMD can pull a decent 490 off, I'll probably be a bit annoyed.
 
barnsley said:
Honestly seeing how my older nVidia card has mysteriously lost performance over the two years (based on me benchmarking it, 1000 points less on 3dmark lmao) i've had it makes me question why people would go for an older nVidia card over a newer amd gpu. Sure the 970 was a decent option against the 390, especially if you wanted a card that would be quieter and use less power. Against the 480 however I personally don't really see it as all that viable unless you're already running a 970. AMD's drivers are SO much better than they were even a year ago too.

If AMD can pull a decent 490 off, I'll probably be a bit annoyed.
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Would be interesting if you went back to older drivers and see if your score picks up, just to see if it's a driver gimp on your card
 
well truth is drivers without georce expirience gave better performance on older nvidia gpus. which would imply driver gimping, or at least geforce expirience gimping
 
barnsley said:
Honestly seeing how my older nVidia card has mysteriously lost performance over the two years (based on me benchmarking it, 1000 points less on 3dmark lmao) i've had it makes me question why people would go for an older nVidia card over a newer amd gpu. Sure the 970 was a decent option against the 390, especially if you wanted a card that would be quieter and use less power. Against the 480 however I personally don't really see it as all that viable unless you're already running a 970. AMD's drivers are SO much better than they were even a year ago too.

If AMD can pull a decent 490 off, I'll probably be a bit annoyed.
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If you're into overclocking the 970 is a far better card. Whilst few will likely buy 970's at this late in the game just to overclock, but it's one aspect where the 970 is king over the RX480. Also, if you play nVidia-backed games like GTA V, The Witcher 3, Assassin's Creed, Just Cause 3, etc., I'd still suggest considering a 970. Better yet, wait until the 1060 comes out in a couple of months time. We all know the 970 is going to stagnate at that point and the 1060 is going to peel ahead. The fact that the mediocre 960 could beat a 780 in certain benchmarks suggests the 1060 could end up being almost as good as a 980 within one year. I imagine the RX480 is going to grow just the same.
 
sonicpete said:
I just read an interesting article which is probably quite newsworthy. Pc perspective are reporting that the rx480 is pulling more power from the PCI express socket and 6 pin connector than PCI express specification.
The RX 480 could potentially damage a motherboard if it was placing a greater load on the PCI express slots than spec.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...ns-Radeon-RX-480/Overclocking-Current-Testing
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oc7zXhzlzU
 
Well 970 is king over reference 480s. And remember, many websites have used a SSC 970 which has a decent overclock already, so this suggests the 480 will smash a reference 970 and with a little OC can outscore a 970 easy. Just have to wait for AIBs

sonicpete said:
I just read an interesting article which is probably quite newsworthy. Pc perspective are reporting that the rx480 is pulling more power from the PCI express socket and 6 pin connector than PCI express specification.
The RX 480 could potentially damage a motherboard if it was placing a greater load on the PCI express slots than spec.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...ns-Radeon-RX-480/Overclocking-Current-Testing
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When the power limit is raised yes.
 
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AMD posted a response to the power useage of the RX 480

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Greenback said:
Would be interesting if you went back to older drivers and see if your score picks up, just to see if it's a driver gimp on your card
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i have run some tests on my 780ti a while a go with the steam vr benchmark

januari-february i was VR ready
march i was on the edge of VR ready
april i was quite a bit under the VR ready

next card i going team red, this is bs
 
Tomas said:
i have run some tests on my 780ti a while a go with the steam vr benchmark

januari-february i was VR ready
march i was on the edge of VR ready
april i was quite a bit under the VR ready

next card i going team red, this is bs
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Maybe VR has changed what kind of GPU horsepower it needs.
 
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