AMD Quad-Core Barcelona News

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Extract from IDG News Service:

Advanced Micro Devices Inc. showed a laboratory version of its promised Barcelona quad-core Opteron 8000 server chip to analysts gathered in Berkeley, Calif., on Thursday, and said it plans to begin selling the product in the second quarter of 2007.

AMD will pitch the chip to users of high-end, commercial workstations and servers. Customers could see performance improvements of up to 70% in database applications and 40% in floating-point applications, when compared to AMD's dual-core Rev F Opteron, the company said.

The demonstration was AMD's second effort Thursday to show that it is keeping up with quad-core chips from rival Intel Corp. AMD also launched its 4x4 QUAD FX Platform, a motherboard with two dual-core Athlon 64 FX-70 series chips intended for the desktop gaming market.

Intel lost significant market share to AMD in 2006, as it was criticized for being slow to produce chips that emphasized power efficiency instead of pure calculating speed. Intel has bounced back in recent months with the launch of dual-core chips, including the Core 2 Duo for desktops and Xeon 5100 Woodcrest for servers.

On Nov. 14 Intel reached the market first with quad-core chips, with the Core 2 Extreme QX6700 for gamers and Xeon 5300 for servers. Intel has also led the industry in converting its chip designs from the 90nm process to 65nm, including all four processors mentioned above.

In response, AMD has criticized Intel's quad-core design as merely gluing two dual-core Woodcrest chips together, whereas the Barcelona chip includes all four cores on a single piece of silicon. Analysts are divided on the impact of that distinction, and say they cannot measure the difference until they compare benchmarks from both finished versions.

Still, AMD trumpeted Barcelona as an engineering achievement that marks the company's shift to 65nm architecture. By shrinking the processor die, AMD can improve power efficiency and squeeze an extra level of shared cache memory onto the design, said John Fruehe, AMD's worldwide market development manager for server and workstation products.

"As you add more cores, it becomes less about brute force and more about the efficiency of how many things you can do at once, and how efficiently you can order them," he said. "From a customer perspective, those who will see the biggest bang for their buck with quad-core are people running applications like larger databases. The more threaded an application is, the more benefit you get."

The users who will see the greatest return on their quad-core investment are users of multithreaded applications like customer relationship management, ERP, e-commerce and virtualization, Fruehe said.

AMD will first launch the Barcelona design on a four-socket board (running four quad-core chips) and a two-socket board (running two quad-core chips). The company will wait until later in 2007 to launch single-socket Barcelona boards, which are used mainly to develop new applications for the larger servers or to run Web farms to handle multiple simultaneous processing requests.

AMD expects server vendors such as Dell Inc., Hewlett-Packard Co., IBM and Sun Microsystems Inc. to adopt the new technology for their servers in 2007, although none of those companies has yet made a public announcement.

How crazy is that? Four quad core processors on one board :D
 
I think with all the stuff thats going on right now the focus should remain on performance per watt. Energy prices to household users has risen 22% in 18months - a clear indication that resources to produce this power are a cause for concern.

I know we (as enthusiasts) drive for faster, fastest etc but really (and putting my 'save the planet' hat on) we should be looking at what satisfies our needs without using more energy. Simply by changing my system set-up I am using over 350w less power (150w idle) than I was in June this year.

One of the rules F1 are thinking of changing is one where new technologies can only be used if they prove to 'greener' a clear indication that world wide awareness of enrgy conservation has never been more apparent.

Intel dropped the gauntlet with core2duo and that satisfies the requriements now without drawing too much energy - it is energy efficient and very strong - AM2 is efficient but not as powerful.

Quad core - is no good to the end-user unless video encoding is your thing then its essential.

Until more multithreaded applications or games come out - 2 cores is ideal for anyone else, importantly two cores with a shared cache and very short instruction pipelines.

The 4x4 AMD system is potentially a great performer, but at what cost (and i include the running cost in that) also its a quick fix to a problem or rather a stop-gap to thier next gen cpu - how long before its all so very very obsolete?

Lets not forget that we all have 64bit CPU's and have had since 2003 - a true Windows 64bit OS will not be available until February (we can't include XP64 as most of the drivers are conspicuous by their absence).

I would suggest that true 64bit processing is more important to most of us than multithread, why? Well because its easier (faster to do and cheaper) to encode 64bit extensions (in the same way as 3dnow, MMX etc is used now) than it is to multithread dynamic programs (games) and make them backward compatable with single core CPU's which the majority of pc owners (businesses) still have.

All that aside - I think people predict that AMD will not have a viable answer until 2008 - I think it will be more like Autumn 2007, by which time Intel should be well on the way to switching to 45nm.

Exciting times indeed.
 
Great post Mav - agree with it all. Nice power savings there as well :peace:
 
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