Quite a bold statement.
But I do agree, i think Intel will follow suit which will backfire.
AMD officially announces their new Ryzen CPU
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Quite a bold statement.
But I do agree, i think Intel will follow suit which will backfire.
Doomslayer
New member
You must not go to the same forums as i do, I see posts every day about Windows 10 more bad then good.
No i don't because I rarely see posts about hate for win10. dislikes to certain features yes. but not hate in general.
I only look at guru3d, OC3D, bit-tech, toms hardware and kitguru. And when I tried a google quick search over half the first page posts are from 2015. It does have it's issues yes, but I don't think I have ever experienced a single problem. Only that, at the time ASUS did not support STX I sound card with win 10 and I had to use the uni-driver. Seems they have finally come out with one now, along with the pheobus card.
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AlienALX
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The last time I tested Windows 7 on a CPU with more than four cores it had serious issues. Most notably were the BF3 issues where people would need to use a hack to park cores or even disable Hyper Threading, it was that bad.
AMD CPU support was also notoriously bad in Windows 7 which is why AMD courted Microsoft with Win 8 to make sure they worked properly. You could gain up to 20% using Windows 8 and I actually put that to the test myself using 3DMFS where I got a 17% better Physics score using 8 over 7.
In order for Intel to support that sort of stuff with 7 it would need a pretty serious rewrite. Well, at least the Kernel would. Which is what Windows 10 is, only with a newer front end.
So even if they did sort out 7 you would be no better off.
I don't understand this "Hanger on" mentality, trying to hold onto something from the past like it's some sort of demigod.
There are plenty of ways to remove all of the stuff from Windows 10 that you don't like.
And yeah, Windows 10 has been awful lately. They launched a major update that just utterly screwed my PC up (crap internet performance, missing Windows, AMD CCC vanished from my system tray along with my Alienware app and so on) but it was fixed within 48 hours.
The same stuff used to happen on 7 too, that is why it got a service pack.
AMD CPU support was also notoriously bad in Windows 7 which is why AMD courted Microsoft with Win 8 to make sure they worked properly. You could gain up to 20% using Windows 8 and I actually put that to the test myself using 3DMFS where I got a 17% better Physics score using 8 over 7.
In order for Intel to support that sort of stuff with 7 it would need a pretty serious rewrite. Well, at least the Kernel would. Which is what Windows 10 is, only with a newer front end.
So even if they did sort out 7 you would be no better off.
I don't understand this "Hanger on" mentality, trying to hold onto something from the past like it's some sort of demigod.
There are plenty of ways to remove all of the stuff from Windows 10 that you don't like.
And yeah, Windows 10 has been awful lately. They launched a major update that just utterly screwed my PC up (crap internet performance, missing Windows, AMD CCC vanished from my system tray along with my Alienware app and so on) but it was fixed within 48 hours.
The same stuff used to happen on 7 too, that is why it got a service pack.
I always love the rocker team who gutted windows 7 of everything not required and released what they called "black edition" Just had to pop in my win7 key since they didnt support any loaders (and good on them).
AlienALX
Well-known member
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/12/15/amds_new_ryzen_cpu_smt_ipc#.WFU9zxuLQuU
This time the rumours have been confirmed properly. Ryyzen *is* faster than Broadwell E.
Maybe they should let Lisa handle all of their releases?
This time the rumours have been confirmed properly. Ryyzen *is* faster than Broadwell E.
Maybe they should let Lisa handle all of their releases?
Greenback
Active member
So in all fairness it's just down to AMD to get the price right for the non-fanbois to maybe switch to AMD
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Thanks for posting. That's very promising.
Has nothing to do with fan boys. the enthusiasts are just a tiny market for intel and amd. The mainstream user is what counts. As well as the corporate user. Imagine how well it will go if you start seeing companies use lenovo pcs with AMD chips instead or whatever manufacturer your company has a contract with.
