AMD have taped out their first 14nm FinFET Products

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AMD have taped out their first 14nm FinFET Products. Will Zen come within a year?

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So glad they are improving the IPC of their next CPUs, had Excavator and Bulldozer had the 40% increase they are claiming with Zen the market wouldn't be where it is now. Are Intel worried? I don't know but I think they should be. More IPC and HBM the future is going to be awesome.
 
I hope this is for zen, an I hope zen itself is a brilliant architecture. ....amd need a few good wins
 
I hope this is for zen, an I hope zen itself is a brilliant architecture. ....amd need a few good wins

They won't win. From what I have read it should be within 10% of Haswell E. However, it needs to be cheaper with more cores. So for example, a 5960x type CPU for £450 would kill it, providing they didn't over spend on dev.
 
They won't win. From what I have read it should be within 10% of Haswell E. However, it needs to be cheaper with more cores. So for example, a 5960x type CPU for £450 would kill it, providing they didn't over spend on dev.

Anything you will have read is pure speculation, No one bar AMD knows the performance of these chips.
 
Time will tell either way, I do hope for a stronger AMD though and they have hired some quality engineers since there last full on x86 chip
 
The 2016 roadmap also says FinFet design for GPUs, hopefully it's that and Zen. Would help APUs a lot to now that I think about it. Especially for mobile
 
I really hope AMD's next gen CPU's will be able to compete with Intel's.
AMD needs strong cores to survive as it's fighting on 2 fronts...
 
I really hope AMD's next gen CPU's will be able to compete with Intel's.
AMD needs strong cores to survive as it's fighting on 2 fronts...

Honestly don't get excited. Intel have now hit Moore's law with their CPU technology, and AMD simply do not have the money in place to be able to do so with Zen.

I don't think Dice realises how much research I have done on Zen, but all noises are that it will be slower than Haswell E, it just shouldn't cost anywhere near as much and typical of AMD will have lots of cores, up to 16 IIRC.

AMD were doing very well with their massively cored Opterons right up until Intel started releasing X79 and X99 workstation chips for less money (5820k etc).

I would imagine they will slot straight back into the server/ws market with Zen which is where they have had lots of success..
 
Honestly don't get excited. Intel have now hit Moore's law with their CPU technology, and AMD simply do not have the money in place to be able to do so with Zen.

I don't think Dice realises how much research I have done on Zen, but all noises are that it will be slower than Haswell E, it just shouldn't cost anywhere near as much and typical of AMD will have lots of cores, up to 16 IIRC.

AMD were doing very well with their massively cored Opterons right up until Intel started releasing X79 and X99 workstation chips for less money (5820k etc).

I would imagine they will slot straight back into the server/ws market with Zen which is where they have had lots of success..

Wasted your time tbh. It's over a year away and not even finalized let alone any engineering samples existing. No point in "researching" about it let alone speculating. Speculation occurs when the product is finalized and the chip starts mass production and they start dropping hints here and there to get the hype train going.
 
Wasted your time tbh. It's over a year away and not even finalized let alone any engineering samples existing. No point in "researching" about it let alone speculating. Speculation occurs when the product is finalized and the chip starts mass production and they start dropping hints here and there to get the hype train going.

This...
 
Honestly don't get excited. Intel have now hit Moore's law with their CPU technology, and AMD simply do not have the money in place to be able to do so with Zen.

I don't think Dice realises how much research I have done on Zen, but all noises are that it will be slower than Haswell E, it just shouldn't cost anywhere near as much and typical of AMD will have lots of cores, up to 16 IIRC.

AMD were doing very well with their massively cored Opterons right up until Intel started releasing X79 and X99 workstation chips for less money (5820k etc).

I would imagine they will slot straight back into the server/ws market with Zen which is where they have had lots of success..

Everyone and their aunt is an expert about Zen even though it's over a year away before it comes out...

Fact is anything we hear is rumor and hearsay nothing more, Don't believe anything until AMD gives real information.
 
Everyone and their aunt is an expert about Zen even though it's over a year away before it comes out...

Fact is anything we hear is rumor and hearsay nothing more, Don't believe anything until AMD gives real information.

You only need to look at the past. The last time AMD were competitive and actually shoed in the cash to make a decent CPU was the FX. It was making a loss on every one sold, that's why AMD went cheap.

Zen isn't cheap but at the same time it's not Haswell E money either.

If you can't use the power of deduction then fair play to you, but I know exactly what to expect and TBH Dice I have never ever been surprised or shocked about a launch, especially an AMD one.

So each to his own on this one, but I promise you if you go in all excited expecting the moon AMD will disappoint you again.

All depends what you expect. Me? I don't have any expectations. They just ruin everything and get people moaning and whining.
 
I am not surprised that AMD is so close to 14nm production. My theory regarding the 3x0 series (and the Fury launch) is that they were developing for the 16nm lithography which fell through leaving them in a massive lurch regarding next gen releases. Retaping their new designs for 28nm would be a massive expense with little return so they concentrated on retaping their next gen for 14nm and launched the 3x0 series and a rushed 28nm Fury products as a stop gap solution...
 
They just ruin everything and get people moaning and whining.

The only one moaning and whining seems to be the one who is complaining about it. You clearly have a formulated opinion so mine as well drop it and keep from blowing up a simple news thread.

As for Zen, I have high hopes for it but I don't expect it to surpass the I7 4790k or any other equivalent from Intel. Just matching it is good enough for a new architecture.
 
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