AMD has Phenom II Black Edition TWKR in the Works
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you missed off the most important pic 
http://www.legitreviews.com/news/6048/
EDIT:The link appears to be broke now
http://www.legitreviews.com/news/6048/
EDIT:The link appears to be broke now
A desperate attempt to keep AMD in the news, since they don't really have anything new to show. Also they are trying to take your minds away from yet another new but sadly bugged CPU, the Athlon II (they did release a microcode update, but come on... for once... just for once...).
It's just a Phenom II chip. Low leakage? Be serious. No amount of binning will guarantee a "low leakage" chip.
Also I'm not exactly getting what they are trying to prove? That a Phenom II can be overclocked using insane really-sub-zero cooling solutions... very useful for everyone of us indeed.
What I want is a chip that can be overclocked 24/7 not just for a suicide run. This "TWKR" edition does not guarantee 24/7 overclocks.
It's just a Phenom II chip. Low leakage? Be serious. No amount of binning will guarantee a "low leakage" chip.
Also I'm not exactly getting what they are trying to prove? That a Phenom II can be overclocked using insane really-sub-zero cooling solutions... very useful for everyone of us indeed.
What I want is a chip that can be overclocked 24/7 not just for a suicide run. This "TWKR" edition does not guarantee 24/7 overclocks.
Think thats being a bit harsh, considering that intel have been stepping on AMD for the last 2 years, its good to see they actually have a competative product in the market, thats selling well and increasing there market share.
Havnt heard much about this bug in the athlon 2, anyone ive read about that owns one thinks its the bee's knee's.
At least AMD dont ask for an arm and a leg for there top end gear anymore (FX-70 WHAT?) xD
Havnt heard much about this bug in the athlon 2, anyone ive read about that owns one thinks its the bee's knee's.
At least AMD dont ask for an arm and a leg for there top end gear anymore (FX-70 WHAT?) xD
name='Sihastru' said:
Your post was a bit harsh also How do you know doesnt guarantee a good 24/7 OC. Not all CPU's are the same. I havent had good luck with Intel CPU's ever and though I thought my current Q6600 G0 was my break from bad luck with intel I was sadly wrong. My Q6600 G0 no longer overclocks to the 3.5ghz I had it at all along. I have spent all day today trying to tweak my settings to get it stable but nothing is working for me.
So just because you have a dislike for AMD doesnt mean their CPU's are that bad. AMD CPU's are starting to pick up again slowly and it will take them a long time to gain momentum again> I am hoping this new CPU will be affordable and a good overclocker on air cooling because I am going back to air cooling.
I wouldn't be quick to shoot it down but I wouldn't be quick to think that it's something really special either. This will almost be like buying Opteron Socket 939's in the past with the notion that the quality of the cores will be better. If the TWKR edition is clocked at the same 3.2GHz then it's arguably quite a risky purchase, especially when it will cost more.
It begs the question however, what exactly will happen to the yields of the X4 955 now that a certain quota of higher grade silicon is going to the TWKR?
Looking forward to seeing how the TWKR performs with extreme cooling.
It begs the question however, what exactly will happen to the yields of the X4 955 now that a certain quota of higher grade silicon is going to the TWKR?
Looking forward to seeing how the TWKR performs with extreme cooling.
name='nepas' said:
I believe he's referring to a problem with the Athlon II where the CPU Frequency will not return to it's full 3.00GHz clockspeed properly when put under load. Disabling Cool'n'Quiet is a temporary fix for now but a microcode from motherboard manufacturers is coming to fix the problem. As he said, it's hardly a bug on the same level as the TLB issue but a bit of a silly one.
Did you know the Athlon I (Windsor/Brisbane) has a similar bug, that was fixed with an application, misleadingly titled "Dual Core Optimizer"? Anyway, not on topic.
If they were doing it like the memory manufacturers, when they tell you on the sticker exactly what it is capable of (timings, voltage, frequency), then yes, by all means release a CPU identical to the X4 955 that is guaranteed to do better.
But if the only difference are the 4 letters "T", "W", "K" and "R" that somehow mean "Low leakage", and no actual accurate specifications are attached (like HT frequency/multi, voltage, stable frequency), then it means almost nothing. Because if you buy one and don't get better results then you'd get with a lower priced 955, will they refund you?
I know I'm a bit harsh on them, but being no.2 doesn't mean you're excused from rushing untested products to market. It also doesn't excuse you from making bold claims without truly backing them up.
If they were doing it like the memory manufacturers, when they tell you on the sticker exactly what it is capable of (timings, voltage, frequency), then yes, by all means release a CPU identical to the X4 955 that is guaranteed to do better.
But if the only difference are the 4 letters "T", "W", "K" and "R" that somehow mean "Low leakage", and no actual accurate specifications are attached (like HT frequency/multi, voltage, stable frequency), then it means almost nothing. Because if you buy one and don't get better results then you'd get with a lower priced 955, will they refund you?
I know I'm a bit harsh on them, but being no.2 doesn't mean you're excused from rushing untested products to market. It also doesn't excuse you from making bold claims without truly backing them up.
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