jimma47
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Ah no worries - my bad. Point still stands though unless more people take the plunge and jump on AMD then it seems their market share will still stagnate or decrease precisely because of that misinformation.
AMD Discrete GPU market share is less than 20%
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Ah no worries - my bad. Point still stands though unless more people take the plunge and jump on AMD then it seems their market share will still stagnate or decrease precisely because of that misinformation.
Dawelio
Active member
Hehe, me being one of them, even though I'm not being considered as "new" in your eyes, but my knowledge has slipped, my memory is fainting a lot these days and I feel like a newbie more and more, over and over again, which isn't fun
... But I do.I can say that I've had my Sapphire 6950 since Juni 2012, as my teacher got it for me and I never had any issues with it at all, solid straight through and took everything I threw at it, loved it.
Although, before I got the 970 as I was upgrading my CPU from an i7 2600K to an i7 4790K and I thought about a GPU as well. The 970 was horrid in coil whine, then got the Sapphire R9 290X, which probably was a faulty one has it was running damn hot, and then a 980 that I returned cause of personal reasons.
Then the Titan X came out, way to expensive, but very appealing, and lastly the 980Ti came out... quite pricey, but very powerful and thought that this card will be my card for the next few years. Specially since they reference coolers are better and much sexier than AMDs unfortunately.
I'm not an Nvidia fan boy, nor AMD. I'm no fan boy at all... In my personal view, there are likes and dislikes about everything. And in my case, it just happen to be a matter of availability at the time and price to perfomance (which 980Ti ain't).
At the end of the day, I'm with Dicey on this one... I don't like all the hate and missleading information and fuzz about AMD. They've made and still do great GPUs, so it's unfortunate to see this. Despite me being an 980Ti owner now.
Well there are way more nVidia fanbit**** than there are AMD, so their lead is even furthered by those morons constantly.
At the moment nVidias drivers arent much if any better than AMDs, not to mention crossfire is doing much better now, even on the cards that dont utilize XDMA. Frankly the pre XDMA cards i.e 7000 series werent exactly packing enough of a punch for 4k gaming anyways unless of course you turn the settings down.
But we can talk all we want, however what can we do? It is easier to do harm than good.
AMD also has their branding working against them, their logo competes against both Intel and nVidia and for the general consumer, once they see the AMD logo there is a higher chance that they will think of the cons versus either Intel or nVidia or even both, whereas Intel and nVidia only have to worry about a single opponent.
At the moment nVidias drivers arent much if any better than AMDs, not to mention crossfire is doing much better now, even on the cards that dont utilize XDMA. Frankly the pre XDMA cards i.e 7000 series werent exactly packing enough of a punch for 4k gaming anyways unless of course you turn the settings down.
But we can talk all we want, however what can we do? It is easier to do harm than good.
AMD also has their branding working against them, their logo competes against both Intel and nVidia and for the general consumer, once they see the AMD logo there is a higher chance that they will think of the cons versus either Intel or nVidia or even both, whereas Intel and nVidia only have to worry about a single opponent.
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Thelosouvlakia
Classy-Fried-Chicken
AMD's cpus are not that great anymore.
But it really drives me nuts when someone opts for a 970 instead of the 100Euros cheaper 290 'because whatever AMD makes is crap'
AMD needs a new marketing team first of all
But it really drives me nuts when someone opts for a 970 instead of the 100Euros cheaper 290 'because whatever AMD makes is crap'
AMD needs a new marketing team first of all
Agost
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...in Italy R9 290s cost just as much as 970s, while 290Xs, 390s and 390Xs cost more.
390s and 290X have roughly the same price, while 390Xs cost 100€ more than 970s...
Im sure thats the situation everyone who made that choice is in (applies to both)
iBeInspire
New member
The real issue is the public perception of AMD's cards... us hardware enthusiasts understand that AMD is still competitive and (mostly) always has been, but many gamers don't. If you talk to anyone who plays games but isn't super into hardware, they'll all tell you (as they often do to me) that AMD is shit and the drivers are terrible and the performance can never compete with nVidia. In my opinion THIS is the real issue, since these gamers who don't know too much about PCs make up a significant, if not majority, share of the target audience for AMD.
Now why this is the case I have no idea, I always try to bring some logic and numbers to the discussion but it's my opinion that ever since the 8800gt days when nVidia were on top by a mile, nobody has really done much to change the public perception of AMD cards.
Now why this is the case I have no idea, I always try to bring some logic and numbers to the discussion but it's my opinion that ever since the 8800gt days when nVidia were on top by a mile, nobody has really done much to change the public perception of AMD cards.
shambles1980
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fire some people blaming them for recent events, then hire some one new to replace them.
the public seem to be happy when you throw a scape goat under the bus.
the public seem to be happy when you throw a scape goat under the bus.
AlienALX
Well-known member
It's not over 'til the fat lady sings. Zen will be make or break but I have a feeling it will be a roaring success..
Ever since Sandy Intel have not really had anything worth having to offer. The thing is, even if Zen is only as powerful per core as Sandy for example it will be a roaring success, because that means we can all have reasonably priced highly threaded CPUS.
Many people would make the switch to Zen just for a change, I know I would ! So I can't see that being a failure so people should just relax and not be so easily convinced they are doomed.
If they are? then we are all in deep doodoo. You think GPUs are expensive now? wait until they cost double and new ones only come out every few years ! I assure you, Nvidia will just "Do an Intel" and you will get nothing but refreshes offering poor boosts.
Honestly, life without AMD really is unthinkable so start to get that into your heads and stop with all the doom and gloom and nay saying.
Ever since Sandy Intel have not really had anything worth having to offer. The thing is, even if Zen is only as powerful per core as Sandy for example it will be a roaring success, because that means we can all have reasonably priced highly threaded CPUS.
Many people would make the switch to Zen just for a change, I know I would ! So I can't see that being a failure so people should just relax and not be so easily convinced they are doomed.
If they are? then we are all in deep doodoo. You think GPUs are expensive now? wait until they cost double and new ones only come out every few years ! I assure you, Nvidia will just "Do an Intel" and you will get nothing but refreshes offering poor boosts.
Honestly, life without AMD really is unthinkable so start to get that into your heads and stop with all the doom and gloom and nay saying.
B NEGATIVE
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If you want image quality,you buy AMD.
You want FPS? Nvidia.
This is coming from someone that games on multiple rigs at any given time with both manufacturers represented.
The level of ignorance and 'ghetto gospel' from the majority of gamers is terribad,this is whats hamstringing AMD.
That and poor marketing claims.
You want FPS? Nvidia.
This is coming from someone that games on multiple rigs at any given time with both manufacturers represented.
The level of ignorance and 'ghetto gospel' from the majority of gamers is terribad,this is whats hamstringing AMD.
That and poor marketing claims.
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Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Well said.
I have a 980 Ti in my household at the moment and my own Fury X and I've come to notice this, Picture quality seems to be better on AMD and on Nvidia it seems to be ever so slightly washed out.
I noted this too when I built my 980 setup. Same with the 980ti and the titan X. Haven't had a chance to check the AMD side again yet.
As for if AMD is gone:
" you think nVidia treats consumers like sh** now, wait till there's no competition " that's going to be great.
Going to love seeing those moronic little kids going off to still buy nVidia and still worshipping them as the best company ever. As I have come to see that most of the nVidia fanboys are jobless teens or young adults who have little understanding of the difference between buying and affording.
@dice: do you happen to notice that on the Fury X the gameplay and whatnot is actually a bit smoother in comparison to the 980ti as well? As I had a Fury X with me briefly and that is how it felt in benches like valley etc. Wasn't sure if this was thanks to HBM, placebo or something else. I know there were some issues, but this was constant in every bench I ran.
As for if AMD is gone:
" you think nVidia treats consumers like sh** now, wait till there's no competition " that's going to be great.
Going to love seeing those moronic little kids going off to still buy nVidia and still worshipping them as the best company ever. As I have come to see that most of the nVidia fanboys are jobless teens or young adults who have little understanding of the difference between buying and affording.
@dice: do you happen to notice that on the Fury X the gameplay and whatnot is actually a bit smoother in comparison to the 980ti as well? As I had a Fury X with me briefly and that is how it felt in benches like valley etc. Wasn't sure if this was thanks to HBM, placebo or something else. I know there were some issues, but this was constant in every bench I ran.
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
This is news to me.. I never noticed the difference. However you have a lot of hardware so I won't doubt your claims.
However I do debate the FPS go Nvidia. It really is game dependant these days, however if you take the titanX with anything I would agree, other cards it more or less depends but more often than not they are equal in terms of performance with small edges of 5% faster between two of the same class cards.
Mysterae
New member
I have never seen so much tripe since I was a boy.
I think the change in colour of the forum is going to peoples heads.
If you want to blame anyone for the (completely paranoid and utterly delusional) downfall of AMD, then blame AMD. Blame their marketing dept, engineers, management, shareholders, suppliers, programmers, even their fictional character Ruby, for not stepping up to the game and delivering and staking their claim in the market. Don't blame their competition for eh, competing.
xnax2802
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Fanboys spreading misinformation has nothing to do with competing, though. And don't make the claim that this has no impact. My friend bought a new graphics card less than two months ago, and he flat out refused to even consider AMD. When I asked him why, he couldn't give me a real answer. He now owns a GTX 960.
nVidia fanboys exist, they do spread misinformation, and it does move sales.
What can I say... Each to their own I guess.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Blame them for what? They have cards that are faster than most Nvidia counterparts. Exlcuding the Titan X, there really isn't a clear cut winner between comparable products. It's the fanboys who spread bad information and there's a lot of it. People still believe AMD drivers suck, they haven't sucked since Oct of 2012 with the first GCN dedicated drivers. It's been 3 whole years yet with all the fanboys it hasn't changed anything.
I'm no fanboy(despite what many of you will say), but I'm not blind and I do see what is happening. I'm just calling it how it is.
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