WYP
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AMD's next-generation product lineup will be with us later this year.
Read more about AMD's plans to release Zen 3 and RDNA 2 in late 2020.
Read more about AMD's plans to release Zen 3 and RDNA 2 in late 2020.
AMD confirms that Zen 3 and RDNA 2 are "on track" for a late 2020 launch
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NeverBackDown
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Going to be an expensive Q4... New CPUs, GPUs, a bunch of monitors are launching, and new consoles.
Dawelio
Active member
The idea of AMD actually catching up to Nvidia, like they did with Ryzen and Intel, is a bit of a dream to be honest. They were lucky with Ryzen, but competing with Nvidia is something else.
Worth remembering NVidia is a much smaller company than Intel, in fact with AMD's recent growth and spending increases, they're not too far off NVidia now in terms of employees and R&D expenditure. Of course AMD also make CPUs with those resources, though NVidia have branched out a lot themselves. But it does seem like the days of AMD having an underfunded GPU department, as was undeniably the case since Piledriver to now, are over. And it would only be sensible to expect that to bear fruit at some point.
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AlienALX
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They don't need to catch up. That was their biggest mistake ever, trying to compete with a company with twenty times the cash they have. It was a bad idea.
They just need to make something that sells.
Nvidia don't make their cash on high end sales. Most of it comes from mid and low tier products and deals with OEMs (laptops etc).
Many people say that the 2080Ti is too expensive. It is, however, it offers enormous performance. If AMD can match that? I can promise you no one will need more than that for a very long time. They don't need to try and beat Nvidia. All that will happen is what has already happened. They will make big old tank GPUs with no overclocking headroom left in the tank and still lose looking like idiots at the same time.
AMD did not beat Intel with Ryzen. They just made them look like utter fools. The 1700 was barely any faster than the 5950x, but, it cost 1/3.
That made people turn their head. Then with 2000 and 3000? yeah, now people are really starting to pay attention. Had AMD released Zen at Intel prices they would have been laughed at. Pah ! 4ghz max? but it was the value in those products.
That's what people don't understand about the 470 and 480. They thought AMD were trying to compete. No, not at all. They were trying to make targeted products that sell. And to that ends it was a complete success.
Avet
Active member
Not quite. We will probably see the next one or two generations of GPUs getting obsolete faster. The reason that 1080 Ti was and still is the only card you need are the consoles. They were released ages ago. 99% of the games are made to run on consoles, and 1080 Ti just mauled through any console port.
2080 Ti became more relevant because of the 1440p 144Hz monitors more affordable in the last couple of years and high refresh gaming became mainstream. Somewhat 4K, but not that much. 1080 Ti is still fine for 1080p.
With consoles having hardware refresh and RT becoming a thing there will be bigger leaps between hardware generations. Also, consoles are using NVME storage. That will remove a massive bottleneck and allow games to stress the GPU harder.
AMD did unlock the CPU side of games. Now more and more games are requiring 6 or more cores.
Constipation that was created by Intel releasing the same processor for 5 years and hopeless console hardware is unclogged now and there will be a massive storm of better game graphics as the software catches up with the new hardware that was unleashed.
It will be the same as it was with rendering applications. We saw 6950X and then 10980X becoming a joke in 2 years. The same will happen with the next few generations of GPUs.
Edit: What AMD needs to do is get back into streaming support. Now there is nothing, not even the people that work on streaming support. Streaming is very popular and every streamer in the world is using Nvidia GPU. Most of the people that watch those streamers are buying systems based on their streamer's PCs.
Also, they need to up the support for professional applications. Nvidia is much, much better than anything AMD has for the creator's space (video, animation, 3D, CAD, Deep learning, take your pick).
It is a really steep mountain that they need to climb in a blizzard with no O2 or climbing gear.
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AlienALX
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Well before I got rid of my XP I played all of the latest games and it was clearing 100 FPS easy at 1440p.
I'm not terribly interested in RT truth be told. Not yet any way. Nvidia have an uphill battle in the PC space with it. Especially at the prices they charge for it.
But yeah, none of the next gen games I played with the Titan were struggling in any way, which was why I decided to switch to the 2070 out of boredom.
4k? yes, now you would need a 2080Ti but I'm not on 4k and stuck to 1440p. I also don't want 240 FPS either.
We'll see I guess. Deffo getting the new Xbox too, not sure on the PS yet. I've hardly used mine for anything other than exclusives, because the 1x kicks its ass in multi platform games.
I'm not terribly interested in RT truth be told. Not yet any way. Nvidia have an uphill battle in the PC space with it. Especially at the prices they charge for it.
But yeah, none of the next gen games I played with the Titan were struggling in any way, which was why I decided to switch to the 2070 out of boredom.
4k? yes, now you would need a 2080Ti but I'm not on 4k and stuck to 1440p. I also don't want 240 FPS either.
We'll see I guess. Deffo getting the new Xbox too, not sure on the PS yet. I've hardly used mine for anything other than exclusives, because the 1x kicks its ass in multi platform games.
