AMD announce their Ryzen 7 series of CPUs

[Zoot]

Judging by the Cinebench numbers of the 1800X vs the 6900K they haven't quite hit the per-clock performance of Intel's Broadwell but will instead rely on being a few 100MHz faster instead.

It means that if the trend holds (Cinebench is only one benchmark), the high clocked Intel Quads like the i7-7700k will probably still have the highest single-thread performance. However given the numbers that's unlikely to give much of a noticable difference.

On another note I'm starting to get excited at the prospect of actual competition in the CPU market again. Cue the benchmarks now.

 

[NeverBackDown]

It's pretty close. They got a 52% total IPC increase. They beat there 40% goal.

 

[RobM]

You trying to stop our beloved hype train?!

Hell no but I don't advise pre order either

 

[NeverBackDown]

Hell no but I don't advise pre order either

I'll give it a day.. for the funds to transfer

 

[Dawelio]

It's pretty close. They got a 52% total IPC increase. They beat there 40% goal.

Noize!

 

[Dark NighT]

459 euro for a 1700x is quite spendy, that said i still would grab it over the 1700 model simply because thats 400mhz less i have to overclock to hit 4ghz and above.

 

[Tolemac]

A bit off topic here but now i'm interested about the price of Vega

 

[Shingara]

A bit off topic here but now i'm interested about the price of Vega

I suspect that the 500 series is a polaris refresh, why some retailers are shifting there stocks of 480s and they will be in the price range the old 4 series were at and i see there bein maybe 2 vegas out the gate like we had with fury x and fury nano and them bein about £500

 

[AlienALX]

Judging by the Cinebench numbers of the 1800X vs the 6900K they haven't quite hit the per-clock performance of Intel's Broadwell but will instead rely on being a few 100MHz faster instead.

It means that if the trend holds (Cinebench is only one benchmark), the high clocked Intel Quads like the i7-7700k will probably still have the highest single-thread performance. However given the numbers that's unlikely to give much of a noticable difference.

On another note I'm starting to get excited at the prospect of actual competition in the CPU market again. Cue the benchmarks now.

Linus ran three benchmarks (the most important ones) and did it himself. AMD gave him full rein over their computers to show nothing fishy was going on.

As for single thread performance? lmfao. Seriously, it actually makes me laugh how important Intel have made that seem. Why? because they can then sell dual core CPUs for £185 and people will actually buy them because they have been led up the garden path.

It's simple fact that when an app supports more cores and threads that it is *that* that is important. And the only reason we are here a decade after the fact that Intel released the quad core Q6600 is because Intel have been in charge.

You do know that they had penned an "I9" right? I owned one. They cancelled it when Bulldozer was poo.

It was all OK for Intel IMO right up until after they launched the 5820k. At launch you could get one for around £320. Every one was patting Intel on the back and applauding them for releasing a hex core CPU so cheap. Especially because before that they were £500 or so. Intel obs.

And then everything changed. All of a sudden Intel are charging £400+ for the same CPU that every one lauded at launch.

Trust me, cores ARE important and so is having a PC that can basically use all of the cores you can feed it. I can split my 8 core up into four 2c 4t virtual machines and literally run it as four computers. Intel have been precious of that, too, it's usually all disabled in K series chips.

It's time to move on. They've had their fun ripping people off, now it's time to push things forward.

 

[Tolemac]

I suspect that the 500 series is a polaris refresh, why some retailers are shifting there stocks of 480s and they will be in the price range the old 4 series were at and i see there bein maybe 2 vegas out the gate like we had with fury x and fury nano and them bein about £500

That wouldn't surprise me if AMD done a refresh tbh but if it's £500 for Vega i'm in "Old Vapey is showing age "

 

[Shingara]

That wouldn't surprise me if AMD done a refresh tbh but if it's £500 for Vega i'm in "Old Vapey is showing age "

Well when im saying 500 im about that ball park before tax so ye. And the way vega is setup on paper they could release one thats only 4gb hbm2 but with vega it can use any other fast memory as vram thus cutting costs down as there is no need to stack 10-16gb of vram on it when you could just use ram, an old gpu in a slot below or an m.2 nvme.

 

[AlienALX]

TBH and I say this as a true neutral (with the hardware to prove it) I really don't care about AMD's next GPU.

What I want to see is better support, for the CPUs I already have.

It amazes me how people jump from CPU to CPU having owned several that they have never seen the full potential of, at a user level, in anything other than synthetic benchmarks. That's nuts !

Me? I'm perfectly poised not to give a crap. Got a Phenom X6, 5820k and 2680v2 8 core Xeon. What do I want? I want to see them utilised properly.

And it'll come, and because it's coming I won't have to spend a penny for years.

Now GPUs? pah. I've been gaming less lately (less good games loads of turds) and I find my Fury X more than enough. If there were amazing games on the horizon? yeah man, would probably be enthused about a GPU to run them.

But what you gonna do eh? buy a new GPU and then say "Ooo look Doom now runs faster".

It reminds me of the lull in PC gaming after Crysis. People were still buying GPUs for Crysis years after the fact.

We need more games, and they need to look a metric ton better than this crap we've been fed recently. Then I might feel the urge to buy a new GPU.

 

[Shingara]

Well for gaming, im building specific for games like star citizen, not everyones cup of tea i understand, but for me its what i like. And when it comes to potential, cpus are a jack of all trades, always have been, always will be. Its gpus that have a specific job.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Well for gaming, im building specific for games like star citizen, not everyones cup of tea i understand, but for me its what i like. And when it comes to potential, cpus are a jack of all trades, always have been, always will be. Its gpus that have a specific job.

Erm no not really. In general, CPUs can be made to basically do anything(well the software for it could), but so could a GPU. It's just not as efficient at some things. Neither can really be a jack of all trades. They aren't efficient at everything. They both have pros and cons, but they are either good at it or not. There isn't much middle ground. Just choose the best hardware for the job, and they way things are going technologically in this world, GPUs are more important.

 

[AlienALX]

8 Pack on overclocking..

Did I not say in a round about way for so long overclocking is not high. This includes Memory oc.

If I say I won't buy does anyone think 5g is possible with anything other than ln2.

To me each sku within the range is simply amd binning internally for higher boost clock stability. So further headroom is very limited.

The Cpu is great at multi thread for sure and certainly rendering and such tasks.

I kind of expected that tbh. There must be a reason why AMD are charging you for the overclocks on the 1700x and 1800x. So it's kinda looking right now that Ryzen as we are getting it next week or whatever is like the first round of Haswell E and could be a bit poo for overclocking.

Wouldn't bother me as I don't overclock any more.

 

[SPS]

8 Pack on overclocking..

Did I not say in a round about way for so long overclocking is not high. This includes Memory oc.

If I say I won't buy does anyone think 5g is possible with anything other than ln2.

To me each sku within the range is simply amd binning internally for higher boost clock stability. So further headroom is very limited.

The Cpu is great at multi thread for sure and certainly rendering and such tasks.

I kind of expected that tbh. There must be a reason why AMD are charging you for the overclocks on the 1700x and 1800x. So it's kinda looking right now that Ryzen as we are getting it next week or whatever is like the first round of Haswell E and could be a bit poo for overclocking.

Wouldn't bother me as I don't overclock any more.

Is that a direct quote? His English seems pretty poor. I can barely interpret that paragraph.

 

[Dark NighT]

8 Pack on overclocking..

Did I not say in a round about way for so long overclocking is not high. This includes Memory oc.

If I say I won't buy does anyone think 5g is possible with anything other than ln2.

To me each sku within the range is simply amd binning internally for higher boost clock stability. So further headroom is very limited.

The Cpu is great at multi thread for sure and certainly rendering and such tasks.

I kind of expected that tbh. There must be a reason why AMD are charging you for the overclocks on the 1700x and 1800x. So it's kinda looking right now that Ryzen as we are getting it next week or whatever is like the first round of Haswell E and could be a bit poo for overclocking.

Wouldn't bother me as I don't overclock any more.

Im sure pcmaster race will make a ton of noise about it in a bad way, that group is terrible for making a small thing be the worst thing ever.

 

[AlienALX]

Is that a direct quote? His English seems pretty poor. I can barely interpret that paragraph.

Yup that's 8 pack for you.

Im sure pcmaster race will make a ton of noise about it in a bad way, that group is terrible for making a small thing be the worst thing ever.

Then remind them that early 5960x could not even do 4ghz without burning your house down and early 5820k barely managed 4ghz whilst dragging their arses across the floor.

They were awful. It was only six to eight months later that they started clocking higher, and even then the 5960x struggled to do 4.2ghz under water and the 5820k improved to around 4.4-4.6 depending on your luck.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

TBH and I say this as a true neutral (with the hardware to prove it) I really don't care about AMD's next GPU.

What I want to see is better support, for the CPUs I already have.

It amazes me how people jump from CPU to CPU having owned several that they have never seen the full potential of, at a user level, in anything other than synthetic benchmarks. That's nuts !

Me? I'm perfectly poised not to give a crap. Got a Phenom X6, 5820k and 2680v2 8 core Xeon. What do I want? I want to see them utilised properly.

And it'll come, and because it's coming I won't have to spend a penny for years.

Now GPUs? pah. I've been gaming less lately (less good games loads of turds) and I find my Fury X more than enough. If there were amazing games on the horizon? yeah man, would probably be enthused about a GPU to run them.

But what you gonna do eh? buy a new GPU and then say "Ooo look Doom now runs faster".

It reminds me of the lull in PC gaming after Crysis. People were still buying GPUs for Crysis years after the fact.

We need more games, and they need to look a metric ton better than this crap we've been fed recently. Then I might feel the urge to buy a new GPU.

Deus Ex Mankind Divided was going to be the game that forced me to upgrade my GPU. It has been on sale three times now for €18 and I've not bothered buying it. Currently there are no games I desperately want to play that my GPU cannot handle.

 

[AlienALX]

Deus Ex Mankind Divided was going to be the game that forced me to upgrade my GPU. It has been on sale three times now for €18 and I've not bothered buying it. Currently there are no games I desperately want to play that my GPU cannot handle.

I did have some fun and frolics with Just Cause 3 I must say. First it refused to use more than one GPU so I did not play it at all (4k, I had absolutely no chance). Then a few months later I installed it on my rig with the Fury X in and I am having a great laugh on the wing of a plane with a rocket launcher then this big message comes up on the screen in a black box.

"WARNING. SYSTEM IS LOW ON MEMORY. WE RECOMMEND 16GB". I only had 8gb. I just about got time to read it before the game CTD.

So I had to buy another 8gb ram. Must say though, it runs hella sweet now at 1440p on the Fury X