AMD announce 3 new AM3+ FX CPUs
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shambles1980
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the only issue i have with zif sockets is that if you have well cured thermal paste and you come to remove the heat sink chances are the cpu is coming off with it. i have to say i never noticed this issue with any cpu's during the time frame where intell was still using them "that includes amd cpu's"
but it does seem lately that they are a bit easy to remove. and i always have a dredful feeling that something is busted. but having said that they have always been fine.
but it does seem lately that they are a bit easy to remove. and i always have a dredful feeling that something is busted. but having said that they have always been fine.
Zoot
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So I guess this is what the announcement of a new FX chip a few months back was referring to.
I'm impressed with the FX-8370E. I didn't expect AMD to be able to improve the TDP of the Vishera FX chips so late in it's lifetime.
I doubt it's going to spur an upgrade from many, but priced right an FX 8-core is a still good alternative to an i5/i7 depending on what you're doing.
I'm impressed with the FX-8370E. I didn't expect AMD to be able to improve the TDP of the Vishera FX chips so late in it's lifetime.
I doubt it's going to spur an upgrade from many, but priced right an FX 8-core is a still good alternative to an i5/i7 depending on what you're doing.
The one time I'd an Intel CPU, I had to put what I felt was an immense amount of pressure on the socket to get it to close. That is 5 years ago now though. ^_^
WYP
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remember we have VAT mate
Dicehunter
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They need to get rid of that, A stupid tax, People actually died in demonstrations when this was brought in that alone should tell you something about it.
WYP
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I'd not call it a stupid tax, but i do get your point.
I owe too much to the NHS and therefore taxes to complain against them though, I'd simply not be alive today.
Let's not make this a political discussion guys, we have to stay on topic here.
Dicehunter
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Dicehunter
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I wonder how many engineers at AMD are tired of AM3+ and have wanted to move on to better things but for some reason the head guys say "No we must remain behind Intel at all times !!!"
WYP
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I don't think much engineering time is spent on AM3+, they haven't made anything new.
Everything after the 8350 has been simple production improvements and CPU core clock / boost clock changes.
even these new CPUs are a basic refresh, even the E models only have the boost clock profiles changed to make the CPU spend less time in a boost state and more quickly clock down.
Bear in mind guys that the FX-8350 was released in October 2012!
Hopefully in the next year or so we can get something like a 6-core APU with excavator cores or something. If amd could even get the single core performance of Sandy bridge it would be fantastic!
Dicehunter
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I would like a true CPU from AMD, No more of this APU non sense, Give me actual hardware pr0n !!! ^_^
shambles1980
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they have to keep the apu's for now. its where they make the most money. consoles and laptops use them. and they are the best things selling for them "barring gpu's"
i really think they should keep the apu road map just churn them out for laptops and consoles.
stop with mfr of the fx cpu's and go design a better cpu. even if it is basically the same cpu but with 6 actual cores (not just counting integer as cores) shorten the pipe lines. give them teh correct ammount of cache for 6 cores and then release those.
at the right price they could be better than i5's and still be a bit more expensive or the same price.
but i dont know what kind of funds they have to do something like that. but the am3+ socket should be able to handle it.
i really think they should keep the apu road map just churn them out for laptops and consoles.
stop with mfr of the fx cpu's and go design a better cpu. even if it is basically the same cpu but with 6 actual cores (not just counting integer as cores) shorten the pipe lines. give them teh correct ammount of cache for 6 cores and then release those.
at the right price they could be better than i5's and still be a bit more expensive or the same price.
but i dont know what kind of funds they have to do something like that. but the am3+ socket should be able to handle it.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
The problem is that the AM3+ socket can only accommodate so much because it's so old so any real future upgrades demand a new socket.
It's like getting a jumbo jet engine and trying to fit it into a clown car, Aint gonna end well.
It needs to be updated to AM4+ etc... with DDR4 support and some CPU's that can actually compete with Intels high end section.
RamboOC
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comes down to the chipset mostly
There have been so many cpus made for socket 775, all the way form pentium 4's to core 2 quads, with slight chipset modifications with still the same socket
Dicehunter
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True but the problem is that AMD are badly starting to slip behind, Power consumption, Heat, Power used etc etc...
I wish we could see AMD return to form.
shambles1980
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they would need to move the memory controller to the mother board then. which would mean may aswell make a new socket. unless they could make a mother board that uses ddr4 memory but could use the am3+ specific cpu's "so current fx vpu users and even phenoms and stuff could upgrade to a ddr4 capable board) "it would be a way to know you should have a % of sales"
with the lga 775 the memory controller was on the board not in the cpu. but i had this conversation els where and i dont see why they couldnt make a board that just bypassed the cpu memory controller (or atleast tricked it or something)
but that would really be more of a fix. but boards can let you use all sorts of memory speeds on intell cpu's even if the cpu memory controller only supports 1333
with the lga 775 the memory controller was on the board not in the cpu. but i had this conversation els where and i dont see why they couldnt make a board that just bypassed the cpu memory controller (or atleast tricked it or something)
but that would really be more of a fix. but boards can let you use all sorts of memory speeds on intell cpu's even if the cpu memory controller only supports 1333
Werent there rumors about a NEW pure cpu arch after some new CEO or whatnot was hired? I was skeptic as they just fired a CEO with the potential to do this and hired a guy purely to aid in expanding their market.
@tripp: you wouldnt happen to know the guy that makes pedestals etc for the switch 810 would ya?
@tripp: you wouldnt happen to know the guy that makes pedestals etc for the switch 810 would ya?
MacLeod
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Im just glad to see AMD come out with something new to throw our way. We enthusiasts were starting to feel neglected here lately and even though this isnt groundbreaking, I do like the idea that we're still on their radar considering AMD seems to be wetting their pants trying to come out with the next best tablet CPU and to hell with the enthusiast segment. Every news release from them is always how much less power their cell phone CPU's are drawing and to hell with actual performance.
NeverBackDown
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If AMD had their own Fabs like Intel i'm sure they would do so much more, but they don't and they have to fight for compeition to get the silicon, instead they have to settle for what silicon architecture is available and unlike intel it isn't designed for a single purpose which can lead to less performance. Intel on the other hand can optimize every single bit of the architecture for the best balance of power/efficiency.
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