AMD 7990 to launch in Q1 2012
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murphy7801
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AMD pulling out the big guns early, I didn't think we would see the 7990 until spring/summer time.
6gb of RAM as well, nothing is stopping that beast
Well at the moment its only useful for multi montior or high res monitors so more importantly is the clock speeds and how well they work on the same pcb.
SieB
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But it's "the" fastest single card, making it "the" best single card there is on the GPU market. When the 7990 comes out it will be "the" fastest dual card on the market especially with 6gb of RAM 3gb for each core unlike the MARS II with 1.5gb of RAM for each core.
These cards are made for multi monitor setups they aren't made to be used at 1080p and what is the point in buying one apart from e-peen if you don't have a multi monitor set up?
When I said nothing will stop this beast I meant games or monitor set up not that cards coming out in the future wont.
yassarikhan786
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Wow, 6GB of RAM
. It will be one monster of a card.
integratable
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Wrong. 7990, just like a 6990 is a high end gpu. For high end hardware you need high end housing. As far as i know almost all high end cases in the market easily cope with such length. I mean cmon, you could fit a 6990 even in a Fractal's Core 3000 when hdd cage removed.
unknownuser200
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they should start making gpus wider instead of longer like the mars II etc... and start making cases with extend wide pci brackets... would help with smaller cases and weight distribution
yassarikhan786
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Yup, The Mars 2 fits in most of the top end mid - high tower cases and I doubt the 7990 would be as big as that.
murphy7801
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Think the biggest problem of this card will be the cost due to fact the 7970 are supposed to be pricey this might be like £900 which is pretty steep.
yassarikhan786
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Yep, I'd be expecting a price over £700
murphy7801
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Well the starting price for a ref 7970 is supposed to be £450 ok so I know it wont be double but who would want to use ref cooler on a 7970 or by ref then add the cost water blocks on. Just think th price just bridge to far.
alienware
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I wouldn't bloody worry about it any way. They will only make about ten, and the only reason they even make them in the first bloody place is for willy waving.
They negate to tell you just how crap Crossfire is, and then you get nothing but headaches.
And before the Crossfire/SLI brigade all pile in to tell me I am wrong don't bother.
The fact is that 99% of companies coding games don't give a sod about you. So you will have to put up with the fact that half of the time your cards are pointless, and hello microstutter.
I've owned Crossfire, Quadfire, SLI and Quad SLI. And I can tell you now that 90% of people who own these setups are either l33t coders able to reprogram their games or just bloody good liars.
I'll go for the latter.
They negate to tell you just how crap Crossfire is, and then you get nothing but headaches.
And before the Crossfire/SLI brigade all pile in to tell me I am wrong don't bother.
The fact is that 99% of companies coding games don't give a sod about you. So you will have to put up with the fact that half of the time your cards are pointless, and hello microstutter.
I've owned Crossfire, Quadfire, SLI and Quad SLI. And I can tell you now that 90% of people who own these setups are either l33t coders able to reprogram their games or just bloody good liars.
I'll go for the latter.
murphy7801
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Dollar to pound prices really vary alot so have see what the uk prices are like. But I agree I had a 5970 didnt like it admitedly I now have 2 gtx 580's but havent had many issues with them but no keen on dual gpu cards at the mo.
alienware
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I've been watching some poor sod on another forum ripping out his hair over the past week. He decided, in his infinite wisdom, to buy a 6990.
First it made his PSU screech, so he had to lay out another £120 on a PSU. Then the flickering and stuttering got to him so much he sent it back.
I think that people just don't get the fact that 99% of games do not, and will not support multithreaded GPUs. The reason is simple, and explained perfectly here. I also agree to this, but, I think there are some uses for SLI and Crossfire that are worth putting up with the misery (long time sufferer here for 3 screens !).
TBH I couldn't put it better myself, but then idiots seem to have partial hearing and "enthusiasts" are downright insulted. Willy waving, willy waving, willy waving. I was actually peeing my pants the other week. Some dude on a forum started a thread "Is it worth adding another 6970 to my existing crossfire" and when you opened the thread he was running 1680x1050. I nearly spat my tea all over my keyboard.
First it made his PSU screech, so he had to lay out another £120 on a PSU. Then the flickering and stuttering got to him so much he sent it back.
I think that people just don't get the fact that 99% of games do not, and will not support multithreaded GPUs. The reason is simple, and explained perfectly here. I also agree to this, but, I think there are some uses for SLI and Crossfire that are worth putting up with the misery (long time sufferer here for 3 screens !).
TBH I couldn't put it better myself, but then idiots seem to have partial hearing and "enthusiasts" are downright insulted. Willy waving, willy waving, willy waving. I was actually peeing my pants the other week. Some dude on a forum started a thread "Is it worth adding another 6970 to my existing crossfire" and when you opened the thread he was running 1680x1050. I nearly spat my tea all over my keyboard.
michaelah500
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I kinda agree with you in some respects...I've had problems when using CrossFire, but I do still think that this card could be a GREAT performer.
alienware
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A great performer in about three games.
And then you have the list of problems with the rest. Namely -
1. Game comes out and won't even launch. Have to disable Crossfire and wait for AMD to release a profile. Then you have to hope the profile actually works (as they never used to for me) before crawling the internet all night looking for the bodge. In my case it was usually to rename an exe file. That means you need to hack your game and hope there is a no dvd patch for it as otherwise you kill the registry entry.
2. A good 90% of games are not coded to understand more than one GPU. So, even though you may get it to like, work, it will be of no benefit at all (please see article above, 1% is about right).
3. Even when it does work you will still be subjected to micro stutter, post process flicker and delays with synchronisation of the GPUs themselves. All of which are visible and highly annoying. None of which happen with one GPU of course.
4. Your room turns into a Turkish bath and sweat begins to pour down your sides. The most I have managed on my Quad SLI rig was three hours of Fallout 3 and then I needed a bath.
5. The noise. Double the cards, double the power.
And so on.
No matter what AMD and Nvidia do you are still always going to be better off with one card. It won't change either, as I don't see people all rushing out to buy four cards. And it is a catch 22. Few people set up more than one GPU. A few of them decide to put their hands up and tell the truth and be honest - it's crap, and then put people off from wanting it (those with any sense). Thus, the market for multiple GPU setups will not grow, it will just remain within the "idiots circle".
When you are the minority it sucks. I know this, because I own a pair of cards that are less than two years from their manufacture date (mine are pretty much brand new) and they are already considered dead technology. I am talking of course about a pair of single PCB dual GPU GTX 295s. Cards that Nvidia made purely to wave willy and nothing more.
The drivers are consistently leaving them behind, and the shadow problems in Battlefield 3 have still not been addressed . Now at first I was hoping they would actually, you know? give a toss, and finally sort it out. But no. All I get are adverts for the 5 series.
Just think. Some poor sod (aka idiot) would have done £900 on those cards less than two years ago and be sitting here feeling really let down round about now.
The article I posted is absolutely spot on, and all of the time articles like those exist multi GPU set ups will not progress.
So get one if you want to wave your willy, but remember that you need to learn how to lie. If you care about actually gaming then you will be doing a lot less of it, so face that now before lashing out loads of money.
And then you have the list of problems with the rest. Namely -
1. Game comes out and won't even launch. Have to disable Crossfire and wait for AMD to release a profile. Then you have to hope the profile actually works (as they never used to for me) before crawling the internet all night looking for the bodge. In my case it was usually to rename an exe file. That means you need to hack your game and hope there is a no dvd patch for it as otherwise you kill the registry entry.
2. A good 90% of games are not coded to understand more than one GPU. So, even though you may get it to like, work, it will be of no benefit at all (please see article above, 1% is about right).
3. Even when it does work you will still be subjected to micro stutter, post process flicker and delays with synchronisation of the GPUs themselves. All of which are visible and highly annoying. None of which happen with one GPU of course.
4. Your room turns into a Turkish bath and sweat begins to pour down your sides. The most I have managed on my Quad SLI rig was three hours of Fallout 3 and then I needed a bath.
5. The noise. Double the cards, double the power.
And so on.
No matter what AMD and Nvidia do you are still always going to be better off with one card. It won't change either, as I don't see people all rushing out to buy four cards. And it is a catch 22. Few people set up more than one GPU. A few of them decide to put their hands up and tell the truth and be honest - it's crap, and then put people off from wanting it (those with any sense). Thus, the market for multiple GPU setups will not grow, it will just remain within the "idiots circle".
When you are the minority it sucks. I know this, because I own a pair of cards that are less than two years from their manufacture date (mine are pretty much brand new) and they are already considered dead technology. I am talking of course about a pair of single PCB dual GPU GTX 295s. Cards that Nvidia made purely to wave willy and nothing more.
The drivers are consistently leaving them behind, and the shadow problems in Battlefield 3 have still not been addressed . Now at first I was hoping they would actually, you know? give a toss, and finally sort it out. But no. All I get are adverts for the 5 series.
Just think. Some poor sod (aka idiot) would have done £900 on those cards less than two years ago and be sitting here feeling really let down round about now.
The article I posted is absolutely spot on, and all of the time articles like those exist multi GPU set ups will not progress.
So get one if you want to wave your willy, but remember that you need to learn how to lie. If you care about actually gaming then you will be doing a lot less of it, so face that now before lashing out loads of money.
SPS
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How long have you been working in the games industry then?
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