AMD 300 Series Roadmap Leaked

[Kushiro]

That's kind of ironic.. that sounds more like Nvidia tbh. AMD have only fallen short with their CPUs. Their GPUs have lived upto expectations.

Sorry, that was poorly worded and more in reference to the bulldozer CPUs and those teasers they have been doing as of late. Their GPUs have certainly been good not to mention their drivers.

 

[Exar]

Competition drives inovation, and unfortunately AMD aren't providing any competition in either the CPU or GPU market right now.

I would argue that AMD have been the only ones promoting some kind of inovation lately. Look at Mantle and the effect it had, we wouldn't have DX12 so soon if it wasn't for AMD.
Also they were first using GDDR5 and now HBM, despite not being in a very good position market wise.

 

[Doomslayer]

There is to much hate for AMD

I think some people just want AMD to fail with this 300 series cards and prove all of the haters wrong, It's like some people just want AMD to die off if that happens then Nvidia & Intel can charge what ever they want.

 

[mazty]

There is to much hate for AMD

I think some people just want AMD to fail with this 300 series cards and prove all of the haters wrong, It's like some people just want AMD to die off if that happens then Nvidia & Intel can charge what ever they want.

No there isn't - they have failed miserably to come up with an answer to Maxwell and the R7 370 is little more than a joke. The 290X can fight with a 970, ignoring power and heat, but they are going to struggle to compete with the 980/Ti and the Titan X.

 

[NeverBackDown]

No there isn't - they have failed miserably to come up with an answer to Maxwell and the R7 370 is little more than a joke. The 290X can fight with a 970, ignoring power and heat, but they are going to struggle to compete with the 980/Ti and the Titan X.

Here we go starting more arguments by bashing AMD in a different thread again.. Some people just let things fly over there head these days:mellow:

 

[Doomslayer]

No there isn't - they have failed miserably to come up with an answer to Maxwell and the R7 370 is little more than a joke. The 290X can fight with a 970, ignoring power and heat, but they are going to struggle to compete with the 980/Ti and the Titan X.

So it's fine for people to hate on AMD but it's not fine for people to hate on Nvidia then.

TBH how do you even know atm no one really know how the 300 series is going to stack up.

Also just be happy that AMD is still around or other wise we would be paying double the price for a GPU.

Here we go starting more arguments by bashing AMD in a different thread again.. Some people just let things fly over there head these days:mellow:

I know some people these days.

 

[Kushiro]

At least threads are gonna have more errr... content.

Was only interested in the Fury line anyways. Either way the performance is going to rival the 290x with slight improvements along with 8GB of Vram for those that will need it in multi GPU setups.

 

[Exar]

No there isn't - they have failed miserably to come up with an answer to Maxwell and the R7 370 is little more than a joke. The 290X can fight with a 970, ignoring power and heat, but they are going to struggle to compete with the 980/Ti and the Titan X.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7037/sapphire-radeon-r9-290x-8gb-tri-video-card-review/index10.html

Sapphire 290x with 8gb of VRAM is not that much behind a gtx 980. With minimum improvements it could be close or above the GTX and perhaps with a better price/perf. So i dont agree with the miserably part. I would actually question Nvidia's decision on the price point of a GTX980.

At least threads are gonna have more errr... content.

"Rebranded" content!

 

[Kushiro]

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7037/sapphire-radeon-r9-290x-8gb-tri-video-card-review/index10.html

Sapphire 290x with 8gb of VRAM is not that much behind a gtx 980. With minimum improvements it could be close or above the GTX and perhaps with a better price/perf. So i dont agree with the miserably part. I would actually question Nvidia's decision on the price point of a GTX980.



"Rebranded" content!

:lol: so true

Though my post was more in reference to this:

Here we go starting more arguments by bashing AMD in a different thread again.. Some people just let things fly over there head these days:mellow:

 

[Jbo1234]

There is to much hate for AMD

I think some people just want AMD to fail with this 300 series cards and prove all of the haters wrong, It's like some people just want AMD to die off if that happens then Nvidia & Intel can charge what ever they want.

People need to stop using the words "hate" or "haters" or anything referring to companies only having loyal fans rather than the vast reality which is companies have consumers and competition.

You can't deny that rehashing the vast majority of hardware, some of it being a few generations old now, is just a stupid move. How can they compete in the market, and frankly why do they cost so much? The production on those chips should be having 99%+ yields so frankly they should come out at dirt low prices...but they don't. Plus where has their profit gone? I'm guessing to the shareholders rather than the R&D dept.
Also a company that has chopped and changed its CEO so often is never a good sign especially when the new CEO is the first one in years to have the appropriate degree to lead the damn company.
And to boot, their stock price can't really go any lower as it is almost worthless.

So stop with the childish "haters" rhetoric and look at the cold facts; poor leadership, low company value, and very little from their R&D even though they have had the money to compete equally. I want AMD to do well as you need competition, but they are a prime example of company that has had no vision and no solid leadership resulting in scrap value shares and dodgy products.

 

[Doomslayer]

People need to stop using the words "hate" or "haters" or anything referring to companies only having loyal fans rather than the vast reality which is companies have consumers and competition.

You can't deny that rehashing the vast majority of hardware, some of it being a few generations old now, is just a stupid move. How can they compete in the market, and frankly why do they cost so much? The production on those chips should be having 99%+ yields so frankly they should come out at dirt low prices...but they don't. Plus where has their profit gone? I'm guessing to the shareholders rather than the R&D dept.
Also a company that has chopped and changed its CEO so often is never a good sign especially when the new CEO is the first one in years to have the appropriate degree to lead the damn company.
And to boot, their stock price can't really go any lower as it is almost worthless.

So stop with the childish "haters" rhetoric and look at the cold facts; poor leadership, low company value, and very little from their R&D even though they have had the money to compete equally. I want AMD to do well as you need competition, but they are a prime example of company that has had no vision and no solid leadership resulting in scrap value shares and dodgy products.

So are you saying that Nvidia has never release anything bad or Rebranding GPU's so really in my book Nvidia is no different to AMD. sounds like to me your saying that Nvidia is the prefect company.

 

[Exar]

P How can they compete in the market, and frankly why do they cost so much? The production on those chips should be having 99%+ yields so frankly they should come out at dirt low prices...but they don't.

If this argument would be true, considering HBM on Fiji cards, how much should GTX 980ti's be then, since they use an older architercture?

 

[Jbo1234]

If this argument would be true, considering HBM on Fiji cards, how much should GTX 980ti's be then, since they use an older architercture?

Yes, because Maxwell is 3 generations old....
Get your facts straight before trying to make arguments and no, I won't take bait and steer off the actual point.
Also as you saw, I never mentioned Fiji as it was clear I'm talking about the other 90% of their gpu lineup.

So are you saying that Nvidia has never release anything bad or Rebranding GPU's so really in my book Nvidia is no different to AMD. sounds like to me your saying that Nvidia is the prefect company.

Did I even mention Nvidia once in my post?
So of course I didn't say that and you know it, you just don't want to comment on when a company does stuff up and deserves fair criticism.
Nvidia are ok and don't be so silly and imply they have not rebranded anything or released gpus that hit melting point.

But please do explain how a rebranding 90% of cards, some being a 3rd rebrand, and the others being power hungry cookers is ok and going to help AMD rake in the money.

 

[mazty]

So are you saying that Nvidia has never release anything bad or Rebranding GPU's so really in my book Nvidia is no different to AMD. sounds like to me your saying that Nvidia is the prefect company.

Sounds to me like you're trolling 100% as you didn't address a single thing in what was a very eloquent response to your hollow retorts.

 

[Doomslayer]

Sounds to me like you're trolling 100% as you didn't address a single thing in what was a very eloquent response to your hollow retorts.

Well if you think i'm a troll "More Power To You"

 

[barnsley]

No there isn't - they have failed miserably to come up with an answer to Maxwell and the R7 370 is little more than a joke. The 290X can fight with a 970, ignoring power and heat, but they are going to struggle to compete with the 980/Ti and the Titan X.

So they've basically got the 370 vs the 750Ti now. Unless you're upgrading an OEM desktop there is a clear winner there if that is indeed based of the 270/7870 XT. they'll even do a 4gb version meaning the 960 is beat for the most part too.

 

[mazty]

So they've basically got the 370 vs the 750Ti now. Unless you're upgrading an OEM desktop there is a clear winner there if that is indeed based of the 270/7870 XT. they'll even do a 4gb version meaning the 960 is beat for the most part too.

Not quite - the 750Ti comes in a half size form factor whereas the 370 won't. As for 960 vs 270/370:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-4.html

 

[NeverBackDown]

Here we go starting more arguments by bashing AMD in a different thread again.. Some people just let things fly over there head these days:mellow:

I stand corrected... Wonder how I knew..

 

[barnsley]

Not quite - the 750Ti comes in a half size form factor whereas the 370 won't. As for 960 vs 270/370:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-4.html

Because half size form factor is really important? Also considering they made the itx version of the 285, whats to say they won't be able to do that with the 370? You've got to admit thats really scraping the barrel.

Notice how I said 4GB version regarding the 960 too. We don't even know for sure if the 370 Is a rebadged 270X or not.

 

[mazty]

Because half size form factor is really important? Also considering they made the itx version of the 285, whats to say they won't be able to do that with the 370? You've got to admit thats really scraping the barrel.

Notice how I said 4GB version regarding the 960 too. We don't even know for sure if the 370 Is a rebadged 270X or not.

I doubt that they will magically be able to shrink a 3 year old chip to a half-width ITX size, but arguably it is important due to the market it is aiming for. If you are wanting such a level entry card, I'm presuming it will probably be in a size-constrained case, such as a HTPC.

We shall see with the 370, but nothing is looking promising...