Alien Isolation - The Alien game we've been waiting for?

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Creative Assembly has announced a survival horror successor to Alien, Ridley Scott's brooding sci-fi classic.

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Now, as a fan of the series.. 1 flaw.. never, have aliens' vision ever (can't stress this enough) been based on movement, they 'see' pheromones and can sense people/things/all sorts THROUGH walls, bulkheads etc... that's how they hunt their prey!!

So my problem is, the ENTIRE thesis for the game is based on a flaw in their factfile...

This was the same flaw that appeared in Aliens Colonial Marines with the 'Blind' aliens... ALIENS DON'T HAVE EYES!!! seriously, it's all based on pheromones... as 'fans of the series' they should know this :(

That said, looks ace and will still play it (because I'm that kind of an Aliens fan)...

Thoughts?
 
SuB said:
Creative Assembly has announced a survival horror successor to Alien, Ridley Scott's brooding sci-fi classic.

source

Now, as a fan of the series.. 1 flaw.. never, have aliens' vision ever (can't stress this enough) been based on movement, they 'see' pheromones and can sense people/things/all sorts THROUGH walls, bulkheads etc... that's how they hunt their prey!!

So my problem is, the ENTIRE thesis for the game is based on a flaw in their factfile...

This was the same flaw that appeared in Aliens Colonial Marines with the 'Blind' aliens... ALIENS DON'T HAVE EYES!!! seriously, it's all based on pheromones... as 'fans of the series' they should know this :(

That said, looks ace and will still play it (because I'm that kind of an Aliens fan)...

Thoughts?
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I can't remember the movies enough to recall how they hunt. :mellow: It seems interesting that in the game though they sense by movement and smell, how do those dudes smell in a game, they must have some crazy AI, as they said it is and that when they put the alien in the game even they didn't know how it was going to respond. That sounds pretty awesome to me, no scripted following a trail bs.

Edit: Damn just realised there are two Alien threads now lol.
 
I am not holding my breath all the alien games have been utter garbage in fact i only realy enjoyed alien trilogy.
I realy do whant a good ailen game :/

 
When I initially heard that the creative assembly were doing this, I must say i was skeptical.

But watching that game play it looks like an Alien game might finally be done well, notice i didn't say right though, I agree with SuB on this.

It does look like something i would enjoy playing though, that gameplay reminded me of my first time playing Slender.

here is a gameplay trailer for those interested
 
AVP which was done by Rebellion (not the latest one) was a classic, AVP 2 was 'okay' but lacked the speed required for proper aliens.. The latest AVP was alright as well, but again, not quite right.. (mostly because it was slowed down for consoles)

I'm not getting my hopes up for this, especially not based in early footage, Colonial Marines did exactly the same thing and it turned out to be a right crock of shit.

I'm hopeful, but again, we'll see.
 
The only movie creature that genuinely scared me... and still does :wacko:.

Even to this day there are times, usually late at night if I need to go for a wazz, when I have to turn my back on a dark corridor, and then some primeval part of my brain kicks in, an instinctive fear response, and all I can imagine as I grope for the door handle in the dark, is the sound of a slow, rasping hiss getting ever closer...
 
ShaunB-91 said:
I can't remember the movies enough to recall how they hunt. :mellow: It seems interesting that in the game though they sense by movement and smell, how do those dudes smell in a game, they must have some crazy AI
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I'm some what of a Alien/Predator nut! If you want to go by Alien lore the Alien creature hunts like a snake does, it picks up heat signature, vibration & sound they are essentially blind.. Source - The Official Alien Colonial Marines Technical Manual :)

These guys are on hallowed ground here working with this franchise, the story better stack up.

I also agree with SuB the original 1999 AvP was the only decent game offering all the recent games have failed big time.
 
Wraithguard said:
I'm some what of a Alien/Predator nut! If you want to go by Alien lore the Alien creature hunts like a snake does, it picks up heat signature, vibration & sound they are essentially blind.. Source - The Official Alien Colonial Marines Technical Manual :)
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This is the bullshit they injected into the lore, aliens are not blind. They sense and thus see, pheromones...

I wouldn't take ANYTHING in that manual as 'lore'
 
SuB said:
Now, as a fan of the series.. 1 flaw.. never, have aliens' vision ever (can't stress this enough) been based on movement, they 'see' pheromones and can sense people/things/all sorts THROUGH walls, bulkheads etc... that's how they hunt their prey!!
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"Sense movement" doesn't necessary mean it sees you moving. You can "sense movement" via other means than vision. I don't think it's so much trying to invalidate the original Alien, more likely it was just a poor choice of words.

For example, you can detect movement by a smell growing or fading, or by the sound of footsteps. I think sense really is the key point here. It senses you. They never say it senses you by its sight, correct me if I'm wrong? Even if they see pheromones, they are still tracking you by the movement of your pheromones, no?
 
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SuB said:
This is the bullshit they injected into the lore, aliens are not blind. They sense and thus see, pheromones...

I wouldn't take ANYTHING in that manual as 'lore'
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Like I said essentially blind, you can't exactly "see" pheromones they are sensed.

One thing I have to question on this new plot is that they found the Nostromo black box... How??? It was nuked when Ripley "Thermo reacted" the mining platform there would be nothing left.. unless of cause they are referring to the black box onboard the life raft.
 
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Wraithguard said:
Like I said essentially blind, you can't exactly "see" pheromones they are sensed.

One thing I have to question on this new plot is that they found the Nostromo black box... How??? It was nuked when Ripley "Thermo reacted" the mining platform there would be nothing left.. unless of cause they are referring to the black box onboard the life raft.
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Presumably the black box is ejected prior to final detonation, it would be a bit pointless otherwise :D.
 
I can only assume you haven't played the AVP franchise games..

Aliens sense/see through walls, they sense/see you a LONG time before you're even aware of them.. none of this "it can't see us if we don't move" rubbish. Stand still, you die, simples. They stick to the dark because they can sense/see you when you cannot...
 
SuB said:
I can only assume you haven't played the AVP franchise games..

Aliens sense/see through walls, they sense/see you a LONG time before you're even aware of them.. none of this "it can't see us if we don't move" rubbish. Stand still, you die, simples. They stick to the dark because they can sense/see you when you cannot...
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Actually that does ring a bell now you mention it from the old AVP series.

Either way I think the game looks great and I'm personally not bothered how the Alien senses you, just as long as I can escape that nasty beast.
 
ShaunB-91 said:
Either way I think the game looks great and I'm personally not bothered how the Alien senses you, just as long as I can escape that nasty beast.
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Bah, you're not a real fan.. It MATTERS!! :P
lol I'm still gonna play it, and from initial impressions, I'll be crapping my god damn pants.
 
SuB said:
Bah, you're not a real fan.. It MATTERS!! :P
lol I'm still gonna play it, and from initial impressions, I'll be crapping my god damn pants.
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I'm not really, I like the movies but I'm not a big fan, I'm looking forward to the game on whats been shown so far though. :)

Can I ask, is Colonial Marines worth it? I think it's dirt cheap now, I'm not sure if it was the PS3 I saw it on sale, but on any platform it should be cheap now, actually it's just come to me, I'm 99% it's free as a PS Subscriber, so is it worth it even being free? :D
 
I saw this game the other day an it looks amazing, It defiantly feels like they've completely rethought the motivations and pace of the game an hopefully that pays off really well, I doubt this style of play will be the whole experience an they probably will introduce smaller aliens later on but I really like the fact they're keeping the experience minimalist and not oversaturating you with action.

The quicker Hollywood an American entertainment producers realize this the better, because this is what Hollywood movies and games are Stereo typically famous for an this isn't a good thing, I'm not saying British films are perfect but they definitely know how be much more subtle and intimate and this is exactly the same how you should approach creating games story and game mechanics.

I really hope this is a great Alien Game because it's about time they did a proper one, there was Alien Resurrection on the Playstation 1 and the graphics we're horrible obviously then but it really was immersive and scary.
 
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I've got the perfect strategy for playing this game, Move my rig into the toilet and sit on the john whilst playing.
This game is guaranteed to give you the runs !!!
 
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