jamesriley94
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http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?p=613760#post613760
Yeah
It's not the easiest thing to remove 'carefully' though. You really have to force the razorblade/craft knife in to pry up the IHS.
3770k temps
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Yeah
It's not the easiest thing to remove 'carefully' though. You really have to force the razorblade/craft knife in to pry up the IHS.
jamesriley94
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At some point maybe. I'm planning to add a second radiator at some point, along with fans. So if I do it, it'll be then.
I'm probably completely wrong i have no idea, but this is my basic understanding of ivy bridge, they put the transistors or something stacked on top of eachother instead of single file like sandy bridge. It's suppose to run cool at normal voltages but after a certain point the 3-D architecture does not respond well to higher voltages and temperatures skyrocket. Maybe you could find somewhere between 4.5 and 4.8, and find the highest possible voltage that doesnt jump the temperatures up
when you "shrink" architecture from 32nm to 22nm things get smaller. resistance
tends to increase. the more resistance, the more heat. same voltage/amperage
through a sized wire and decrease that same wire and keep the electrical load the
same, the smaller will always have a hotter temperature than its counterpart.
add the missed trick of Intel on the IHS thermal compound and now you have
more heat at the same voltage from sandy to ivey bridge. so a 1.45-1.5v on SB
is IB 1.3-1.35 to keep temperature levels in a tolerance.
tends to increase. the more resistance, the more heat. same voltage/amperage
through a sized wire and decrease that same wire and keep the electrical load the
same, the smaller will always have a hotter temperature than its counterpart.
add the missed trick of Intel on the IHS thermal compound and now you have
more heat at the same voltage from sandy to ivey bridge. so a 1.45-1.5v on SB
is IB 1.3-1.35 to keep temperature levels in a tolerance.
jamesriley94
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But due to efficiency at lower clock speeds, and Ivy not needing as many volts as Sandy, at the lower clocks Ivy funs quite a lot cooler.
People make this out to be a huge problem however, when I really don't think it is.
On air cooling, or even H100i cooling, you can only really get to around 4.5-4.6ghz overclock anyway, at which, Ivy is cooler than Sandy, and performs better than Sandy, even if Sandy is running 4.7/4.8ghz. Therefore, to me, if you're running standard cooling, it really doesn't make a difference.
The only time I've properly noticed a problem with it was when trying to push more on water. I'm putting it mainly down to the thermal paste for this, but for me, the CPU block seemed incapable of absorbing the heat fast enough, so despite there being more than enough rad space available, I still couldn't really get above 4.8ghz, and at that clock, after half an hour of testing, the radiator itself didn't even get warm - regardless of whatever speed I set the fans to. That was the reason for me de-lidding the processor, but despite saving 5-10 degrees throughout, that still isn't really enough to push another 100mhz out of it.
I will try it with the liquid metal at some point to see if that helps any more.
PetetheSweet
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I had to delid my 3770K @ 4.4GHz, because after I opened a unanswered Thread with my heat probs. there was no option left.
I was wondering that the temps on the custom loop are the same like on my previous used H100 with Akasa in Push/Pull.
It turned out the the original TIM was so bad, that there was no chance to cool it down, even with a custom watercooling loop.
I've used a Razor blade and Liqiud Pro inside and MX-4 on Top.
That dropped my temps in OCCT LinPack with AVX from 75°C to 55°C on the hottest core (benching for about 60-70 minutes).
In Aida the temps are lower, I was benching on Aida for 24 Hours.
The Idle Temps are almost the same like before between 27°C and 34°C compared to 38°C to 42°C.
I think with Liquid Pro on Top, the temps will maybe drop a degree or two, but it's conductive.
So with a little patience and without any use of force you can push your temps downwards, to provide a bit of space for higher clocks.
I was wondering that the temps on the custom loop are the same like on my previous used H100 with Akasa in Push/Pull.
It turned out the the original TIM was so bad, that there was no chance to cool it down, even with a custom watercooling loop.
I've used a Razor blade and Liqiud Pro inside and MX-4 on Top.
That dropped my temps in OCCT LinPack with AVX from 75°C to 55°C on the hottest core (benching for about 60-70 minutes).
In Aida the temps are lower, I was benching on Aida for 24 Hours.
The Idle Temps are almost the same like before between 27°C and 34°C compared to 38°C to 42°C.
I think with Liquid Pro on Top, the temps will maybe drop a degree or two, but it's conductive.
So with a little patience and without any use of force you can push your temps downwards, to provide a bit of space for higher clocks.
Master&Puppet
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Bit late to the party but is the air coming out of your rad warm when you are stress testing the CPU? My 3570K stays under 85C in IBT at 1.355v
jamesriley94
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Who's that question aimed at?
If me, no. The rad only gets warm at all when CPU and GPU are both stressed - so it would appear the conduction between the CPU and the waterblock.
If me, no. The rad only gets warm at all when CPU and GPU are both stressed - so it would appear the conduction between the CPU and the waterblock.
Master&Puppet
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Yea, soz, I was asking yourself. I do wonder weather different IB chips have better or worse conduction because of the whole IHS/TIM thing but you have got better temps from de-lidding anyway.
Try upping the PLL voltage just a bit, raising the PWM frequency, and lowering the Vcore. I ended up getting my 3930k stable at 4.6 ghz @ with a vcore of 1.388 from those two options and brought the actual CPU temps down to a manageable level. Take a lot of the settings off auto too, ASUS boards are extremely aggressive when it comes to voltages. Make sure your keeping your ram and vrms relatively cool aswell just run a 120 mm fan over all that. But if that doesn't work then like everyone else says you have to remove the IHS and reapply thermal paste to your CPU. good luck removing AI suite from your computer aswell it took me a couple hours to completely remove all the asus software from IB rig.
