2500k to Ryzen

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garih

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ok, so after many years trouble free it looks like my hand is forced to upgrade.

my current Z68's USB seem to be Fooked! I added a PCIe usb3 card which works fine. Until I just tried to go to BIOS. and can't get in. I have tried 3 different keyboards, in multiple USB ports, from the added ones to the native USB 2 ports. but to no avail.

The pc works fine for now, as long as I don't need access to the BIOS. Which is not ideal.

So after looking at the benchmarks, it is pretty clear to me to try and stretch for the 1600x, with 16gb of ram.

Other than that I am a little stuck.

What speed ram to go for?
B350 or X370? is the X370 Worth the extra?

Edit: system is purely for gaming and YouTube etc!

I intend to keep the rest of the rig the same for now, so just need mobo cpu and ram. not gonna rush out for a M.2 yet.
 
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B350 if you only use one GPU and just get the 1600 or 1500x you won't need the 1600x and go for 3200 GSkill ram and you'll be good to go and with the money saved get an M.2 :)
 
I'd personally avoid MSI boards for the time being if you want the 3200MHz ram to work out of the box, From my own personal experience with the MSI Pro Carbon board I had and the current B350 board a friend of mine has the highest memory clock we were both able to get was 2666 on our memory kits.

I'd personally have a look at Asus' offerings.
 
Gotta go for a black theme. Only colour in system is a flash of red on gpu. And white led's. don't want to limit my future gpu options with the wrong colour mobo!

Dicehunter said:
I'd personally avoid MSI boards for the time being if you want the 3200MHz ram to work out of the box, From my own personal experience with the MSI Pro Carbon board I had and the current B350 board a friend of mine has the highest memory clock we were both able to get was 2666 on our memory kits.

I'd personally have a look at Asus' offerings.
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Having watched a fair amount of videos on the ram speed subject. Unless ya have a 1080ti it doesn't seem to make much difference. I was leaning towards just getting a 2666-3000 kit
 
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garih said:
Having watched a fair amount of videos on the ram speed subject. Unless ya have a 1080ti it doesn't seem to make much difference. I was leaning towards just getting a 2666-3000 kit
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Yeah just get the fastest you can afford. Although nothing above 3444. That seems to be the highest speed that doesn't start falling off with speed.

Although the board you choose and the 1600 imo are fine choices. Asus has seemingly the best memory support but really it's more often than not ok for other companies.
 
B350 Strix (Asus) is the best board for the money on Ryzen. That's as a total, it's better than some 370 boards.
 
AlienALX said:
B350 Strix (Asus) is the best board for the money on Ryzen. That's as a total, it's better than some 370 boards.
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that's a nice looking board.

I have selected 2800MHZ CL14 over the 3000 CL15 for similar money.

What are the odds that my current Win 10 installation will just plug in and work on AMD?

with MS upgrading me from 7 and key saved in bios... Don't really want to have to buy another copy!
EDIT: have just used ProduKey to read my key, Don't know if it will work, but it is worth a go!
 
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I would reinstall from scratch. It sucks, but AMD have power management features etc that may not work on a different install. Whenever I change CPU and board I always reinstall. If it's just a CPU swap I am OK with that, but I have had issues in the past where all of the cores were not loading up, probably because of the core count going up.

So yeah, I would deffo reinstall.
 
AlienALX said:
B350 Strix (Asus) is the best board for the money on Ryzen. That's as a total, it's better than some 370 boards.
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Parts have now been ordered.

Strix B350,
Ryzen 1600
2800 cl14 ram 16gb

and applied to Noctua for the free upgrade kit for my NH-D14
 
Nice. Good choice on the components. I was looking at the B350-f myself but I think I'm going to spend a little extra for the Gigabyte AX370 Gaming K5. It will match my planned build much better as I'm hoping to use an EK FLuid Gaming loop which is all black aluminium.

I agree with AlienALX regarding the re-install of your OS too. Honestly I tend to do it any time I make a serious hardware change that I know I'm going to be sticking with for a while.
 
I know I need to re-install, I'm just concerned that I won't be able to transfer my key... God dammit let me be a lazy cheap-skate!!!
 
If you do a Windows reset on your old system before installing Windows on your new system it should be fine. I did this when I had to go from my old rig to my new and Windows activated no problem.
 
Daiyus said:
If you do a Windows reset on your old system before installing Windows on your new system it should be fine. I did this when I had to go from my old rig to my new and Windows activated no problem.
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What do you mean reset? How to go about this?
 
garih said:
What do you mean reset? How to go about this?
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Settings > Update & security > Reset this PC > Get started and choose an option.

I usually go for "Remove Everything" in this situation because Microsoft quotes:

"- Reinstalls Windows 10 and removes all your personal files.
- Removes apps and drivers you installed.
- Removes changes you made to settings.
- Removes any apps your PC manufacturer installed. (If your PC came with Windows 10, apps from your PC manufacturer will be reinstalled.)

If you're planning to donate, recycle, or sell your PC, use this option and choose to fully clean the drive. This might take an hour or two, but it makes it harder for other people to recover files you've removed."

Just don't log in with your Microsoft account after it's been wiped.
 
Bartacus said:
That's not NVME dude, only standard SATA speed in the M.2 format. IMO, the cheapest NVME worth buying is the Intel 600p. 1TB M.2, 1700MB/s read 600MB/s write, under $500CDN.
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oops, wrong link...
i meant

Samsung 960 EVO M.2-2280 250GB PCI Express 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive

or maybe

Western Digital PCIe SSD PCI Express 3.0 Solid State Drive - Black
 
Ahh, much better choices then. I'd go with the cheapest option, since you really won't feel a speed difference unless you run disk benchmarks.
 
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