1150 Mini Itx

[Roooker]

Hi guys,
i need some advice on the new rig i will be building somewhat around next month. Prodidy with a 4770k. The problem i have is that i cant find many mainboards that have Z87 chipset for overclocking and are mini itx formfactor.

I found:
Gygabite Z87N Wifi
MSI Z87I
an asrock mobo which is not an option because it is asrock
and ofc the Asus Maximus VI Impact which is not released yet.

Both the MSI and the Gygabite mainboards only have 1 4pin cpu power connection. As i want to oc the 4770k to around 4,2 i am worried that either the mainboards are not able to do that, which would not be a tremendous setback, or that the 4 pin power connection for the cpu is not able to deliver enough power to the cpu.

Any advice is appreciated.

 

[FTR.4500MHz]

Cant really tell you much on the 4pin power delivery stuff but another option is to wait for the Prodigy M to hit the market and then slap a nice mATX board in there.
I think the case isnt that far around the corner...?

 

[sheroo]

With the Z77 itx boards - the only one that could overclock "properly" was the Asus P8Z77-I DELUXE. The other boards didn't have the same power regulation available and you couldn't change the voltage in the bios.

I'm guessing that its the same for the Z87 itx motherboards, that unless you see a daughter board on there specifically for power regulation, then you won't be able to change the vcore on the board...

Have you seen the Asus ROG itx motherboard?

 

[Feronix]

That thing looks packed man!
Btw, the top section. Isn't that the same concept as on the P8Z77-I DELUXE for overclocking? Any idea what the 2 extra cards sticking out at the bottom are?

 

[antihero]

As stated before, your best bet might be to wait for the Prodigy M and get the G1 Sniper M5.

 

[jamesriley94]

With the Z77 itx boards - the only one that could overclock "properly" was the Asus P8Z77-I DELUXE. The other boards didn't have the same power regulation available and you couldn't change the voltage in the bios.

I'm guessing that its the same for the Z87 itx motherboards, that unless you see a daughter board on there specifically for power regulation, then you won't be able to change the vcore on the board...

Not true. The MSI board and the Asrock one could get decent overclocks too - as well as the EVGA Stinger, although that's less common.

For Z77, the Gigabyte one had no voltage control options whatsoever, so I'd avoid Gigabyte for ITX. If I'm honest, Asrock actually do do some of the best ITX boards around, as they compete with the Asus boards for considerably cheaper.
Other than Asrock, Asus are the only other boards I'd consider. I have a P8Z77-i Deluxe on the way to me now - but you'd have to wait for the Z87s.

 

[Excalabur50]

The gigabyte g1 m5 is probably the way to go for you.

 

[sheroo]

Not true. The MSI board and the Asrock one could get decent overclocks too - as well as the EVGA Stinger, although that's less common.

It depends on what you call a decent overclock. The overclocking on the Asus board is better and more stable due to its superior and dedicated power regulation, which the other boards don't have.

 

[jamesriley94]

It depends on what you call a decent overclock. The overclocking on the Asus board is better and more stable due to its superior and dedicated power regulation, which the other boards don't have.

Well with the 1155 sockets nowadays, you're limited by heat and acceptable voltages long before you're limited by the board.
The MSI, Asrock, Asus and EVGA Z77 boards are all capable of reaching 4.5ghz on Ivybridge easily enough assuming the processor isn't a terrible clocker. Agreed the Asus can probably reach higher than the others, but you're mad if you want to run it at 5ghz 24/7 anyway as you'll just degrade the chip.

I personally wouldn't go above 1.3v on Ivybridge anymore, as my 3770k started to degrade slightly at 1.375v.

 

[Roooker]

Cant really tell you much on the 4pin power delivery stuff but another option is to wait for the Prodigy M to hit the market and then slap a nice mATX board in there.
I think the case isnt that far around the corner...?

The rig is not for me, i am building for a friend. He wanted the Prodigy.

With the Z77 itx boards - the only one that could overclock "properly" was the Asus P8Z77-I DELUXE. The other boards didn't have the same power regulation available and you couldn't change the voltage in the bios.

I'm guessing that its the same for the Z87 itx motherboards, that unless you see a daughter board on there specifically for power regulation, then you won't be able to change the vcore on the board...

Have you seen the Asus ROG itx motherboard?

It is not about the voltage. If can not change the voltage at all, i'll just oc to the max stable oc with auto/stock voltage.

And yes that Asus Mobo is the Maximus VI Impact. I have listed that in my first post and it is no released yet. All i could find is that is is going to be released somewhat around mid July. That is the board i would have chosen if it was out yet

That thing looks packed man!
Btw, the top section. Isn't that the same concept as on the P8Z77-I DELUXE for overclocking? Any idea what the 2 extra cards sticking out at the bottom are?

The second "card" on there is a dedicated audio card.

The gigabyte g1 m5 is probably the way to go for you.

That boards in not Mini itx. It is micro Atx

 

[sheroo]

Well with the 1155 sockets nowadays, you're limited by heat and acceptable voltages long before you're limited by the board.

This is definitely the case if you are just doing benching runs and are out for a quick cpu-z validation. If you want a good stable overclock for say folding then you need rock stable power delivery, and some boards are just not up to the job.

 

[Roooker]

H80i with sp 120 should be able to keep it at decent temps on 4,2 i hope. And it is going to be a lan gaming pc with a 770.