AMD's R7 1800X and 1700X report higher temperatures with a 20 degree offset

WYP · Mar 14, 2017

AMD's R7 1800X and 1700X report higher temperatures with a 20-degree offset, which means that only the R7 1700 is reporting the correct CPU temperatures at launch.

Read more on Ryzen's thermals.

Korreborg · Mar 14, 2017

Why don't they report this at first?

Now they get "bad" OC reviews, instead of telling about it upfront.

tinytomlogan · Mar 14, 2017

Even I dont understand it. Its f'n retarded

WYP · Mar 14, 2017

Korreborg said:
Why don't they report this at first?

Now they get "bad" OC reviews, instead of telling about it upfront.

It really depends, this does not necessarily mean that we suddenly have 20 degrees of additional thermal headroom. For all we know this may mean that Ryzen's thermal limit is around 70 degrees and not 90.

Korreborg · Mar 14, 2017

It's just. When i as a casual overclocker sees 80+, it means no more volts.
If the real temp is 60 then ill try a bit more volts, and maybe get stable at 100 extra MHz.

Tolemac · Mar 14, 2017

Whats needed is AMD to set out a guide on how to work out "safe temps" for the 1700X and 1800X if this is the case.

Greenback · Mar 14, 2017

WYP said:
It really depends, this does not necessarily mean that we suddenly have 20 degrees of additional thermal headroom. For all we know this may mean that Ryzen's thermal limit is around 70 degrees and not 90.

This would seem the only reason they would put an extra 20 degrees on, a cpu that can only go to 60-70 when intel can go higher, it would seem a better idea to make it look like Ryzen is just as capable

Type-8 · Mar 14, 2017

Well that explains your review TTL. You said that it didnt feel like it was pumping out 80°+ of heat. Only reviewer to mention it too.

Things like that are why they're the most in depth reviews in cyberspace.

tinytomlogan · Mar 14, 2017

Tolemac said:
Whats needed is AMD to set out a guide on how to work out "safe temps" for the 1700X and 1800X if this is the case.

No mate because the board sees 80+ and sets the fans to 100%

Im testing the 1700 right now and its quiet AF

If this is right you dont need MEGA cooling at all, they just f'd it up

It makes NO sense

WYP · Mar 14, 2017

Greenback said:
This would seem the only reason they would put an extra 20 degrees on, a cpu that can only go to 60-70 when intel can go higher, it would seem a better idea to make it look like Ryzen is just as capable

I think it is more of a "Intel goes this high so reviewers will crank the volts until it is that high". Hopefully, AMD will clarify the thermal limits of Ryzen soon.

Korreborg · Mar 14, 2017

tinytomlogan said:
Im testing the 1700 right now and its quiet AF

Do you get near 1800X performance at OC, like some reviewers?

= Again, it makes NO sense. Why the f... spend 499$ when you can get close to the same for 329$

I hope the 1500 and 1600 OC better, i'm 99% a gamer, so i'm having a hard time justifying the 1700, when a 7700k is the better gamer.

I'm still at 4670k, but have just applied for a step-up to 1080ti, so i need a new CPU. And SOOOON!

tinytomlogan · Mar 14, 2017

Korreborg said:
Do you get near 1800X performance at OC, like some reviewers?

= Again, it makes NO sense. Why the f... spend 499$ when you can get close to the same for 329$

I hope the 1500 and 1600 OC better, i'm 99% a gamer, so i'm having a hard time justifying the 1700, when a 7700k is the better gamer.

I'm still at 4670k, but have just applied for a step-up to 1080ti, so i need a new CPU. And SOOOON!

Youll find out when the review goes live

Avet · Mar 14, 2017

Sensor is reporting higher temperatures than real ones. Board just displays them, and sets fans accordingly.

It is possible that they just calibrated sensors wrong. Another messy job.

I hope TTL can get some more info from AMD.

Korreborg · Mar 14, 2017

tinytomlogan said:
Youll find out when the review goes live

Well i tried

It would be nice to se som production with CUDA support. 1700 vs 7700k + for instance a 1070,1080 or 1080ti
As many of the benchmarks is well, benchmarks. I'm thinking real life scenarios

Scarey · Mar 14, 2017

tinytomlogan said:
Even I dont understand it. Its f'n retarded

This would explain why there wasn't as much heat haze coming from the radiator, as you expected on your review Tom.

Will this give headroom for more volts and OC?

Shingara · Mar 14, 2017

It will if we can remove that 20 deg fan... i dont even know why its called a fan offset. We dont even get fans with the freaking things.

Dicehunter · Mar 14, 2017

Why can AMD not just put a decent thermal sensor in place like Intel ? Is it really that hard to do ?

Shingara · Mar 14, 2017

its not the sensor thats at fault, its the offset they have placed on the x series cpus that has all of us scratching our heads. The 1800x can run at speeds the 1700 overclocked can at lower temps and lower volts, if they let us get rid of that offset we would be able to push them.

But we cant, when the bios thinks we are at 90 degrees and its screaming aa its on fire, its only at 70.

NeverBackDown · Mar 14, 2017

Dicehunter said:
Why can AMD not just put a decent thermal sensor in place like Intel ? Is it really that hard to do ?

It has one. It's just offset +20C.

Dicehunter · Mar 14, 2017

NeverBackDown said:
It has one. It's just offset +20C.

Why though ? Development mistake or did I miss something ?

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