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Old 24-11-20, 01:31 PM
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Haha all of this missliking towards Amazon, yet their CEO just getting richer everyday. Adds literally multi-billion dollar numbers to his net worth every month. How unfair life is in all honesty.
The issue is the missliking means nothing if you continue to support him by purchasing from amazon.

Like all the complainers who say to vote with their wallets, and last 10mins before making a purchase themselves.

But anyway, this is off topic now.

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Old 24-11-20, 01:45 PM
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I think talking about Amazon's modus operandi is very much in topic here. They themselves have enabled this behaviour by streamlining their infrastructure to the point of not checking what's in the returned boxes.

But it's not only inconveniences like those, which will eventually be corrected to the customer. But countries like Ireland and Luxembourg enable these multi-billion corporations to operate with very little in the way of taxation. I wish EU grew a pair against them. They don't play by the same rules as local companies and we're feeding profits to the pockets of American and Chinese elite.
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Old 24-11-20, 03:05 PM
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Their service has been terrible for a long time unless you get amazon prime, they you almost get preferential treatment. It almost seems intentional
To be fair I wouldn't be without Prime. Not just for the shipping (as it's pretty poor down here) but the TV service is excellent (well, the streaming) and they have much better stuff that Netflix. I also love the ecosystem. My mother would never work out Android or Google play etc. She loves her Kindle. Absolutely loves it to bits. She's been through three tablets now by knacking the batteries because she reads all day.

It costs me less than Netflix and offers a whole wealth of stuff. Netflix? I go six months sometimes paying for it and there's nothing on there that even interests me. I don't mind though, as my mum pays for the Prime. She's been watching that Crown thing on there.

I also like how they have the power to drop the prices of their stuff by half every year, so I simply stock up then (like Echo, Show, Fire Cube etc).
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Old 24-11-20, 03:42 PM
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To be fair I wouldn't be without Prime. Not just for the shipping (as it's pretty poor down here) but the TV service is excellent (well, the streaming) and they have much better stuff that Netflix. I also love the ecosystem. My mother would never work out Android or Google play etc. She loves her Kindle. Absolutely loves it to bits. She's been through three tablets now by knacking the batteries because she reads all day.

It costs me less than Netflix and offers a whole wealth of stuff. Netflix? I go six months sometimes paying for it and there's nothing on there that even interests me. I don't mind though, as my mum pays for the Prime. She's been watching that Crown thing on there.

I also like how they have the power to drop the prices of their stuff by half every year, so I simply stock up then (like Echo, Show, Fire Cube etc).
Yes, and then they fire 20% of their staff because they can without warning (employees sign and agree on it) and force 40% increase on daily shipping quotas that all employees must fulfill to keep their job in this time.

And im not pulling things out of my a**. My brother is working there. I have seen his contract and what is expected. Its disgusting.
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Old 24-11-20, 03:49 PM
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Yes, and then they fire 20% of their staff because they can without warning (employees sign and agree on it) and force 40% increase on daily shipping quotas that all employees must fulfill to keep their job in this time.

And im not pulling things out of my a**. My brother is working there. I have seen his contract and what is expected. Its disgusting.
WOW.

I am glad I cancelled my account.

Only thing I'll miss is the new seasons of The Boys but those can be obtained elsewhere...
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Yes, and then they fire 20% of their staff because they can without warning (employees sign and agree on it) and force 40% increase on daily shipping quotas that all employees must fulfill to keep their job in this time.

And im not pulling things out of my a**. My brother is working there. I have seen his contract and what is expected. Its disgusting.
That sadly is something I can do little to absolutely nothing about. It sucks.

It's been going on for thousands of years. People used to get paid in tokens (no cash) so they would spend it all on rotten out of date food and bread with gypsum in because they were not good enough for real flour.

They are an American company, and they act like one. I have plenty of experience of that (10 years). You are an animal and you perform a duty. If for any reason at all you don't fulfil that duty you are sacked.

Sadly like I said it is how the world operates. It will never change, the only thing I can look forward to is my eventual death so that I don't have to think about it any more.
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Yes, and then they fire 20% of their staff because they can without warning (employees sign and agree on it) and force 40% increase on daily shipping quotas that all employees must fulfill to keep their job in this time.

And im not pulling things out of my a**. My brother is working there. I have seen his contract and what is expected. Its disgusting.
Yet, their CEO adds billions to his net worth every single month.
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Old 25-11-20, 01:55 AM
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Yet, their CEO adds billions to his net worth every single month.
Why is that bad? It has nothing to do with Jeff B. It's all in stocks. It's people investing their money into Amazon. It benefits the entire company. He only makes money because he owns shares of Amazon. When those prices rise he makes profit. You seem to forget if those prices fall he also loses billions and it hurts the company.

It's not so black and white.
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Old 25-11-20, 09:31 PM
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Why is that bad? It has nothing to do with Jeff B. It's all in stocks. It's people investing their money into Amazon. It benefits the entire company. He only makes money because he owns shares of Amazon. When those prices rise he makes profit. You seem to forget if those prices fall he also loses billions and it hurts the company.

It's not so black and white.
Because without the people on the floor, actually doing the work that makes the company go around, where would his billions come from? No company in the world makes money without having some kind of workflow and if that goes away, what's then left?...

My point is that if Amazon treats their employess as bad as been mentioned in this thread, then it's just shameless that their CEO gains billions each month.
Why not invest some of that into his employess - the ones actually doing the work that makes his company so successful at the end of the day.

Since I highly believe he does any of that, he can just sit and roll his thumbs all day long and still make billions of his stocks.

Why not be more like IKEA? They yearly invest millions around christmas to give every employee in their warehouses an extra month bonus as a christmas present. Something that actually shows you care about the people on the ground, that makes your company go around and makes them feel appreciated for all of the work they do daily.
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Old 25-11-20, 10:23 PM
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It's not shameless at all really.

He started the company risked everything leaving a very high paying job to start a bookstore. Did all the work himself. Grew the company into one of the largest companies the world has ever seen. He made the choices and took the risk. What did the employees who got hired after he was well underway to become a billionaire do? Nothing he didn't do. They are low skill jobs. The people making amazon the big bucks, for example software engineering for AWS, are treated extremely well because they are valuable.
Low level skill jobs are all treated the same. It's easy labor you're entitled to your hours you agree to and the benefits you can afford. I believe amazon gives you 1 share of stock if you work for them as well. That's a free few thousand dollars too a gift that keeps on giving.

I'm Europe they may work different. Difference in laws and regulations. However in the US at least it's generally no worse or better than any other job for any level of work. I would know as I've talked to quite a few people who work there that I went to school with and were hired as Software Engineers.

However if you would like to dm about this then go ahead and we can discuss it
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