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Old 26-10-20, 04:28 PM
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They could get away with inferior tech as not many consumers can compare between vendors first hand. Radeon released Image Sharpening as a sort of a response to DLSS 1.0 and some people reported it being better.


Going further pack people used to tout better colours with ATi GPUs, when it fact it was a difference in default colour depth. Can't remember which way the defaults went, but over HDMI one defaulted to full 0-255, the other 16-255.

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Image Sharpening was much better than DLSS 1.DLSS 1 was a furry horror show.

AMD do things like this better. Always have, always will I reckon. Every time they have done something to combat Nvidia they've beaten them.
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Old 26-10-20, 04:33 PM
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I think when it comes to price they are going to pay more for tsmc but the ram is cheaper so it kinda balances out some, Pretty sure Nvidia now feel that not going tsmc was a bad move and from what i'm hearing about 3070 stock it's going to be just as hard to get one of them as it was any other 3k series.

2400mhz I'd expect to be the norm thou, thou maybe they are pushing the tpd higher since they are closer to nvidia than normally, if they can take the top they will is my feeling.

looking forward to the reveal thou more so than Nvidia last time, just hope it's a longer reveal than the CPU's were and they have more to talk about.
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Old 26-10-20, 04:46 PM
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Image Sharpening was much better than DLSS 1.DLSS 1 was a furry horror show.

AMD do things like this better. Always have, always will I reckon. Every time they have done something to combat Nvidia they've beaten them.
It was nothing but a post process sharpening filter, similar to ENBSeries shims people have used for over a decade.


While DLSS was still an actual new technology with a performance boost due to lower internal resolution. DLSS 1.0 also improved a fair bit during the first few updates, Metro Exodus being a good example.
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I think when it comes to price they are going to pay more for tsmc but the ram is cheaper so it kinda balances out some, Pretty sure Nvidia now feel that not going tsmc was a bad move and from what i'm hearing about 3070 stock it's going to be just as hard to get one of them as it was any other 3k series.

2400mhz I'd expect to be the norm thou, thou maybe they are pushing the tpd higher since they are closer to nvidia than normally, if they can take the top they will is my feeling.

looking forward to the reveal thou more so than Nvidia last time, just hope it's a longer reveal than the CPU's were and they have more to talk about.
I've heard 3070 stock will be far more prevalent than 3080/3090. The delay was quite likely to build up stock as well as to better counter AMD.
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Old 27-10-20, 12:31 AM
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Well they have more than they did 3080's but not enough to meet the kind of demand there will be for them so expect them to sell out very quickly.
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I've heard 3070 stock will be far more prevalent than 3080/3090. The delay was quite likely to build up stock as well as to better counter AMD.
200 as opposed to 20. So I guess it depends on perspective.
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I've heard 3070 stock will be far more prevalent than 3080/3090. The delay was quite likely to build up stock as well as to better counter AMD.
3070 is supposed to be their main bread n butter mainstream product. Id guess ideally they would have produced at least twice the amount of 3070 over 3080.

But I still think given their slow line binning tests, there will not be many. At least they have no hope in hell to meet demand.
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Old 27-10-20, 10:25 AM
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Yeah, I mean what is the real ratio of demand vs supply on the 3080, maybe in the region of 50:1 (Customers waiting : customers supplied) going from OCUK waiting lists? At least for the first month anyway. So even if they quadrupled their supply this time and demand stayed the same(Which we know it won't, besides being a cheaper card there's quite a lot of 3080 cancellations going on in anticipation for this model), they're not meeting demand, not getting anywhere near.
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Yeah, that's fair enough. It's true that even if they have ten times the amount of 3070's than 3080's, it still won't be enough.
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