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Old 10-08-19, 08:47 AM
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Yeah there were model listings, I think ECC, for those numbers. Presumably they're at least working on a 64CU Navi die as they've made one every generation. If they can keep the same clocks, then that's 5700XT+60%. The 2080ti is about 35% faster than 5700xt so even with big clock decreases, 64cu Navi should trounce NVidias current gen top end, but I assume it's meant to compete more with NVidias next gen top end.

Basically, they already have that performance waiting for them on a plate once they can make the die big enough, RDNA on 7nm is far more efficient than Turing in terms of perf/die area(limiting factor to price/perf).

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Old 10-08-19, 01:42 PM
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This would be awesome if Nvidia were not sitting on so much. IE - what they've held onto because Vega was so poor. So if AMD catch up Nvidia will just move onto their next.

Still, it makes me more hopeful for AMD cards truly better than my Titan XP and the price should be lower.

Nvidia can keep RT and DLSS I think I've seen about enough.

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Old 10-08-19, 04:11 PM
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I think it's still up in the air whether the first big Navi parts will be RDNA1 or RDNA2(Which seems to include RT). Depends how quickly they want it out I guess, if it's next year though personally I'd assume it'd be gen2 with RT, unless that's not ready till the 2nd half of 2020, though even if they pushed out a quick ~52CU part they could at least get within the 2080Ti's ballpark.
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I think it's possible the next big Navi chip will be powerful and very good, but I don't think it'll kill Nvidia. It'll eat a few bob away from them, but ultimately I think it'll fall short of making Nvidia do anything other than continue to prove themselves and make a good architecture. In theory, all they have to do is not repeat Turing and they'll have a successful architecture. Samsung's 7nm should help bring that.
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Old 10-08-19, 10:53 PM
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Big Navi will trounce 2080 Ti.
Lets not forget that 5700 is the first iteration of a new architecture, smaller node, cheaper to make, and its running GCN instructions so far from being fully optimised in its current state.
If 5700 XT is capable of trading blows with its 2070 super counterpart, just think what improvements simply getting off GCN instructions and onto optimised ones.
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