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Bartacus said:
Ok, after test fitting some rads in the Define 7, I declare that case to be a solid "meh" leaning towards "crap", and it's getting replaced by a case actually designed with proper water cooling in mind. I already have a TR rig in the same case, but I'll be building him a baby brother:


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Respect. I was so disappointed with Define 7. XL variant is good for monster PCs but O11 Dynamic XL just beats them straight in every category. Congrats.
 
Bartacus said:
Ok, after test fitting some rads in the Define 7, I declare that case to be a solid "meh" leaning towards "crap", and it's getting replaced by a case actually designed with proper water cooling in mind. I already have a TR rig in the same case, but I'll be building him a baby brother
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Lian-Li can't really be beaten in this segment of the market @Bartacus, The Dynamic/Air series are in a league of their own ;)
 
23RO_UK said:
Lian-Li can't really be beaten in this segment of the market @Bartacus, The Dynamic/Air series are in a league of their own ;)
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They truly are. It is the benchmark, this O11, particularly the XL. I've never seen a better use of interior space in a case. Liked the case so much I own two now, LOL! But I tried to give Fractal another chance, lesson learned, never again. Until those guys learn how to make a case without a billion compromises, I'll not touch a Fractal case again.
 
Bartacus said:
They truly are. It is the benchmark, this O11, particularly the XL. I've never seen a better use of interior space in a case. Liked the case so much I own two now, LOL! But I tried to give Fractal another chance, lesson learned, never again. Until those guys learn how to make a case without a billion compromises, I'll not touch a Fractal case again.
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CaseLabs was and still is the benchmark for any case manufacturer. Khm...(that doesn't mean copy/paste Thermaltake). O11 offers a similar approach but more mainstream-friendly. They still have a lot that needs to be changed. Airflow for example is very restricted in O11. Those fan cutouts are just too small. Also air filters are garbage. Complete waste of material.

Edit: Even though O11 is far from a good case the rest of the market is just complete horse manure so O11 is only the best of the bad bunch.
 
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Bartacus said:
Cool, I'd be interested in hearing your hot spot results with card. The only block I could find for my VII was an Ek Vector, and it kinda sucks, like most EK blocks.
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Lovely looking card & 500 times better than EK's packaging.
Easy to install using provided instructions.



Ran F1 2019 benchmark for 45 minutes ith fans on 40% and seeing max hotspot temps at 66, powerlimit set to 50%, Mem @1200, power draw is between 250w & 350w.


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Bartacus said:
Very nice! I managed to get mine to pull over 380W from the wall at one point at 2089mhz, but that was with very old drivers.
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Thats a lot watts, what drivers are you running today ?
Any idea what clocks & volts I should be aiming for 24/7 ?
 
FTLN said:
Thats a lot watts, what drivers are you running today ?
Any idea what clocks & volts I should be aiming for 24/7 ?
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I honestly don't know, since it's in my 3rd rig that I don't 'daily drive', and I only really OCed the snot out of it just to see how hard I could push it. I'm running whatever the latest drivers are now. Clocks are weird with that thing. I've had to force the fan speed to 100% to get the clocks up, but they don't get anywhere near what they did under old drivers and older versions of Windows 10. So I settled for setting a 'cap' of what looks to be 2100mhz (hard to tell from the stupid graph in the Radeon drivers), but it never gets anywhere near that. I still see that hotspot temp go over 100C pretty quick though, even though the GPU core temp is in the low 40's.

I might pick up that Phanteks block, just because I hate EK, LOL! I'm going to move the rig into a PC-O11 Dynamic XL soon, and see what more rads gets me, if anything.
 
Bartacus said:
I honestly don't know, since it's in my 3rd rig that I don't 'daily drive', and I only really OCed the snot out of it just to see how hard I could push it. I'm running whatever the latest drivers are now. Clocks are weird with that thing. I've had to force the fan speed to 100% to get the clocks up, but they don't get anywhere near what they did under old drivers and older versions of Windows 10. So I settled for setting a 'cap' of what looks to be 2100mhz (hard to tell from the stupid graph in the Radeon drivers), but it never gets anywhere near that. I still see that hotspot temp go over 100C pretty quick though, even though the GPU core temp is in the low 40's.

I might pick up that Phanteks block, just because I hate EK, LOL! I'm going to move the rig into a PC-O11 Dynamic XL soon, and see what more rads gets me, if anything.
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I thought you said they never went over 35? I dont think you will gain much more on the rads. I did a test after moving. Difference in temp with 2 480 vs 3 480 was a massive 3C improvement.

If anything, its my air flow raising temps, because my intake is straight through a warm radiator, so its not cool air coming in.
 
Got tired of Asus' incredibly crap software and the wireless feature on the ROG Spatha just flaking out all the time aswell as the battery losing charge very quickly.

Logitech MX Master 3

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New chair for me, went to the dealer and actually sat in it before i ordered it, goodbye gaming trash, hello proper chair for my body type.
 
Warchild said:
I thought you said they never went over 35? I dont think you will gain much more on the rads. I did a test after moving. Difference in temp with 2 480 vs 3 480 was a massive 3C improvement.

If anything, its my air flow raising temps, because my intake is straight through a warm radiator, so its not cool air coming in.
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We're talking Radeon VII here. It's my 2080TI that never broke 35C until recently, when it got moved to and upstairs bedroom and we started getting 20C days. It hit 36C *gasp*. :D
 
Bartacus said:
We're talking Radeon VII here. It's my 2080TI that never broke 35C until recently, when it got moved to and upstairs bedroom and we started getting 20C days. It hit 36C *gasp*. :D
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Did a bit of overclocking, and it runs stable with a steady 2030mhz in Timespy Extreme, junction temps max out around 87c and it can pull up to 343w giving a score of 4759pts (link) , all in all i'm pretty impressed with the block and the card only downside is the buggy drivers (I'm stuck on Windows 1809 as drivers bug out in any version of windows more recent).



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If that junction temp is well below 100C, you're doing well in my books, at least better than me! The VII is a potent card at high clocks.
 
Avet said:
I want to buy some of those. I really like them. Somehow I never get enough money left. :D
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Yeah I have 16 now. Definately a dent in my wallet :(

8 for the radiators and 8 as air intake. I wanted to opt for Noctua but the cost here was almost double per fan. The only reason I have these, is actually because the EK Vardar did not like being put on a hub with the Aquaaero controller. Vardar fans would squeal at certain frequencies.

Since these were mag lev, there was no frequency noise. Vardar actually perform better than these. but the noise was unnacceptable.
 
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