Which PSU??? Help me choose!

Which one?

  • OCZ 600w PowerStream

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  • PC Power & Cooling 510w Turbo-Cool PCI-E

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FragTek

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Ok so I'm in a bit of a dilemna. If for some reason I need to upgrade PSU's because my Fortron can't handle all of my parts, what PSU should I get?

I'm looking at the 600w PowerStream and the 510w PCP&P Turbo-Cool PCI-E.
 
if u run ur watercooling pump off ur wallsocket and not psu , the 520 W will be sufficient. Just make sure u split the loads nicely between rails. No point in paying a whole lot for PC&P or the 600W powerstream. Look into Enermax PSUs as well ...... I swear by those PSUs ........ insane capacity to handle loads without the rails as much as flinching .
 
name='|3ourne' said:
if u run ur watercooling pump off ur wallsocket and not psu , the 520 W will be sufficient. Just make sure u split the loads nicely between rails. No point in paying a whole lot for PC&P or the 600W powerstream. Look into Enermax PSUs as well ...... I swear by those PSUs ........ insane capacity to handle loads without the rails as much as flinching .

Thx for the advice!

Unfortunately my pumps are 12v and run off of the PSU.... I tried to even the load as much as possible on my first go around. I've heard good things about Enermax but I don't hold them in a higher regard than Fortron which is what I'm using now. If I go with a new PSU I'm going balls out and getting the best thing money can get me to make sure I won't be bothered by a troublesome psu any more.
 
Enermax is much much better than fortron. Not saying that fortrons are bad , but personally I have used about 4 enermax psus in my/my friend's computer and they have NEVER let me down. I would recommend the 600 Watt OCZ then , PC&P and certainly the best ...... but its like a comparison between a heavy Rolls Royce or a fast Bentley , both amazing but Bentley outraces the Rolls ;) .
 
name='|3ourne' said:
Enermax is much much better than fortron. Not saying that fortrons are bad , but personally I have used about 4 enermax psus in my/my friend's computer and they have NEVER let me down. I would recommend the 600 Watt OCZ then , PC&P and certainly the best ...... but its like a comparison between a heavy Rolls Royce or a fast Bentley , both amazing but Bentley outraces the Rolls ;) .

lol, nice comparison :)

About enermax being "much much" better than fortron... ehhh... sure. lol
 
:sigh: dunno which enermax ur referring to but the coolergiant and the noisetaker series that i have used till now have been awesome , no matter the load .
 
You buy a PSU from a reputable company for several reasons.:

  1. Should the PSU fail, a good reliable PSU from a reputable company will not kill your entire system when it dies.
  2. No PSU puts out what it's advertised when it heats up. When the PSU warms up the power output lessens, it's a known fact. Therefore, a good reliable PSU from a reputable company will ensure that the loss of power output is minimal.
  3. There are several other reasons why you would want to get a reliable PSU from a reputable company but they are very techincal and take a long time to type and I don't have a long time to type. All that you need to know is this is where I would get into capacitor quality (which, if you were to touch with your bare hands you would die) and overvoltage protection.

PC Power and Cooling, Enermax, OCZ, Antec, and Zippy are good PSU's.

When looking for a good PSU you want one with a lot of amps on each rail, especially the 12v rail. I've seen each of these companies sell a 500w+ PSU with very little 12v amps for the same price as another one of their PSU's with a lot of 12v amps (35-40 is a good number). Why this is, I don't know.

You want to avoid dual rail PSU's. Supposedly they're supposed to work as good or better than single rail PSU's but when overclocking your best bet is a single rail PSU.

So now that you know you want a single rail PSU and now that you know you need a lot of amps on each rail and you know what companies you can trust, you can purchase a PSU. I don't like to recommend PSU's because they are the heart of the system and I would hate to recommend a bad heart (although, I seriously doubt I would).

If you want me to recommend some single rail PSU's. I'd recommend:​

Antec 550W Power Supply, 24-Pin, Model "TRUE550 EPS12V" - Retail

Output:+3.3V@32A;+5V@40A;-5V@0.5A;+12V@36A;-12V@1A;+5VSB@2A

OCZ PowerStream 520W Power Supply With Adjustable Power Rails With LED Indicators, SATA Connector, Model "OCZ520ADJ" -RETAIL

Output: +3.3V@28A, +5V@40A, +12V@33A, -5V@0.5A, -12V@0.5A, +5VSB@2.0A

ZIPPY/EMACS 700W Power Supply With SATA Connector, Model "PSL-6701P-SATA" -RETAIL

Output: +3.3V@30A, +5V@35A, +12V@45A, -5V@0.8A, -12V@1A, +5VSB@2A

ENERMAX 550W Power supply for AMD K7 & Pentium4. 24-Pin with 20-Pin adapters ( EPS 12V To ATX 12V and EPS 12V To AMD ATX GS), Model "EG651P-VE(24P)"

Output: +3.3V@36A; +5V@36A; -5V@1A; +12V@36A; -12V@1A; +5VSB@2.2A

PC POWER AND COOLING TURBO-COOL MODEL 510 ATX/ATX12V, 510 ATX+6, 510 Express, 510 SLI

+5V @ 40A, +12V @ 34A/38A, -5V @ 0.3A, -12V @ 2A, +3.3V @ 30A, +5VSB @ 3A, power=510W, pk. power=650W

If you can't help but go dual 12v rails:​

ZIPPY/EMACS 600W Power Supply With SATA Connector, Model "PSM-6600P-SATA" -RETAIL

Output: +3.3V@30A, +5V@30A, +12V1@26A, +12V2@20A, -5V@0.8A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A (max total 12v amps = 40A)

Again, I'd do your own research before picking any of these. Picking the right PSU is a crucial step in building a computer. But anyone of these should fit your needs. You always want the highest possible wattage with the highest possible amperage. If you get a 465w PSU with 33a on the 12v rail. That might take a lot of devices but you may run out of power to power the whole system. Therefore, my recommendation is that 700w zippy with 45a on the 12v rail but it's expensive.
 
Thx for the little guide rollercam, reps for you!

I think I've decided to go with the 600w PowerStream if my current PSU can't handle the vicious load that my computer puts on it.
 
ur system ( at least the info in ur profile ) suggests that you have an "average" system unless ur watercooling pump is a real big leech. the OCZ 520W with its tweakable rails will be MORE than sufficient for you at this point.

My ocz right now on an overclocked setup is running the following :

1) 3000+ @ 2.75 ghz - 1.53 V

2) DFI NF4 UT

3) Powercolor x800xl ( with the PCI express power connector )

4) 7 case fans , 1 cpu 120 mm panaflo fan , 2 UV Cathodes

5) 2 x 7.2k Eide HDDs

6) 2x DVD writers

7) Floppy drive

8) Thermaltake Hardcano 13 fan controller .

I did not have to tweak the rails at all. Everything is at company default and all the rails in bios are more than their "supposed to be values" and drop about 0.03 V at Max load.

Therefore it goes without saying that this PSU still has a lot more to give. Thus you should be just fine with an OCZ 520W . What you buy is ultimately ur decision but u save money getting the OCZ powerstream 520Watter .

Hope this helps.
 
|3ourne said:
ur system ( at least the info in ur profile ) suggests that you have an "average" system unless ur watercooling pump is a real big leech. the OCZ 520W with its tweakable rails will be MORE than sufficient for you at this point.

My ocz right now on an overclocked setup is running the following :

1) 3000+ @ 2.75 ghz - 1.53 V

2) DFI NF4 UT

3) Powercolor x800xl ( with the PCI express power connector )

4) 7 case fans , 1 cpu 120 mm panaflo fan , 2 UV Cathodes

5) 2 x 7.2k Eide HDDs

6) 2x DVD writers

7) Floppy drive

8) Thermaltake Hardcano 13 fan controller .

I did not have to tweak the rails at all. Everything is at company default and all the rails in bios are more than their "supposed to be values" and drop about 0.03 V at Max load.

Therefore it goes without saying that this PSU still has a lot more to give. Thus you should be just fine with an OCZ 520W . What you buy is ultimately ur decision but u save money getting the OCZ powerstream 520Watter .

Hope this helps.

The biggest draw I have right now are my pumps, I run 2 Laing D4's in series which really suck down the current... The 6 massive Panaflo M1A's don't help at all either. I don't think the 6 80mm case fans use all that much juice.

I'd rather go for the 600 to future proof myself against anything I might throw at it, and have the extra protection of knowing that I have all that wattage there in my hands.

Thx for informative reply, reps have been awarded :) Edit: Reps would have been awarded but I have to "spread my reps around" :rolleyes:
 
:wavey:lol thats what I thought ....... ur pumps and fans will be the biggest leeches on the powersupply. Now I have more info about your system , I would say go for the 600 Watter wholeheartedly and let us know how it goes :D
 
name='|3ourne' said:
:wavey:lol thats what I thought ....... ur pumps and fans will be the biggest leeches on the powersupply. Now I have more info about your system , I would say go for the 600 Watter wholeheartedly and let us know how it goes :D

We're gonna give it another shot before I blow a wad on a new PSU though... I hate to spend money on comp shit right now, a $430 cc bill just rolled in today that's due in two weeks which'll leave me enough for a new PSU and some spare money for other shit... So i'm really not trying to spend that money unless i absolutely have to.
 
use an old psu to power the pumps etc (cheap would do possibly ) prob is unless ya have a server tower it b external which wont llk pretty but wld b functional
 
name='sai_jao' said:
use an old psu to power the pumps etc (cheap would do possibly ) prob is unless ya have a server tower it b external which wont llk pretty but wld b functional

Yeah I've actually thought about that... I had to re leak test everything a few nights ago and I used an old crappy ass 400w psu to do that testing. I'm gonna see if my rma replacement is going to play nice first :)
 
600w all the way

everyones saying that the 520w is sufficent.. and IT IS!

but a little extra power can never hurt, and anyways, its not you whos spending the money

but matt, lets just hope that the fortron RMA be workin so you don't have to dump more green into a new PSU
 
Sneaky said:
600w all the way

everyones saying that the 520w is sufficent.. and IT IS!

but a little extra power can never hurt, and anyways, its not you whos spending the money

but matt, lets just hope that the fortron RMA be workin so you don't have to dump more green into a new PSU

Thx for the reply Justin... Reps for you :)

Yes I'm praying the fuckin replacement psu I get will work just fine, i still dont know for certain if it was even the problem to begin with... soo... yeah, it's gonna be totally hit or miss. I'd love to NOT have to spend another $200 on something like a PSU. Bleh!
 
FragTek said:
Thx for the reply Justin... Reps for you :)

Yes I'm praying the fuckin replacement psu I get will work just fine, i still dont know for certain if it was even the problem to begin with... soo... yeah, it's gonna be totally hit or miss. I'd love to NOT have to spend another $200 on something like a PSU. Bleh!

Yeah a PSU just seems a waste of cash. Mind I just bought an Antec Neo Power and i like it - well apart from the fact my old PSU looks tidier.

One question:

UV Spiral Wrap or Chameleon springs (UV also)

Can't be arsed to re-braid really.

Good luck on the PSU Frag :wavey: wavey for you
 
kempez815 said:
Yeah a PSU just seems a waste of cash. Mind I just bought an Antec Neo Power and i like it - well apart from the fact my old PSU looks tidier.

One question:

UV Spiral Wrap or Chameleon springs (UV also)

Can't be arsed to re-braid really.

Good luck on the PSU Frag :wavey: wavey for you

Spiral wrap. Used it on my PSU and it looks v.nice.

Check out my pics in rig showcase.
 
kempez815 said:
Yeah a PSU just seems a waste of cash. Mind I just bought an Antec Neo Power and i like it - well apart from the fact my old PSU looks tidier.

One question:

UV Spiral Wrap or Chameleon springs (UV also)

Can't be arsed to re-braid really.

Good luck on the PSU Frag :wavey: wavey for you

Thx kemp :)
 
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