What to do?

WC Annihilus

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Well, I'm still running on the same CPU+Mobo platform for the past 3 years now and I think it's getting to be time for an upgrade. Now, being the lucky guy I am, I happened to win a Zotac 790i Ultra motherboard at Nvision last month. Thing is, Bloomfield launch is so close (a month or 2), so I'm a bit out of sorts as to what I want to do with this thing. There are several options:

A) Grab a cheapie 45nm dual core high clocker such as a E5200 and 2gb DDR3. Would run me about $100-120 most likely if I buy it used off forums. Perhaps a E72/300 for $20-40 more.

B) Grab a E0 84/5/600 and 2gb DDR3, seem to be perfectly capable of 4+ghz on air. Probably run me a bit over $200.

C) Grab a used 65nm quad and 2gb DDR3. There's someone on another forum selling a Xeon x3210 (Q6600 with 8x multi and Intel rated temp roof of 85C) for $150 that I bet I could haggle down, possibly down to $120-130. Proven clocked to 3.2@1.35v, he never pushed it further. Could probably get to 3.6 or so with some more volts. Another guy has a 2gb DDR3 kit for $45. So, this option would run me < $200.

D) Grab a 45nm quad and 2gb DDR3. Not quite sure how the lower ones (Q9300 or Q9400) clock, but the likes of a Q9550 seem to hit 3.6 no problem, 3.8-4ghz certainly possible. Lower 45nm would probably run me $300-350, Q9550 be more like $350-400 with ram.

E) Sell off the 790i mobo while it's still brand new, unused, and wait for Bloomfield. Would probably net me $275 if I'm conservative, perhaps more. Lowest Bloomfield proccy has Intel price of $284, probably be more like $300+ at launch, plus we're unsure of what motherboards will likely cost, likely $250+, maybe even $300+, and some kit of DDR3. Factoring in the sold mobo, moving to Nehalem at launch would probably cost me $300+, perhaps $350-400

Now, let's go over usage. First and foremost I'm a gamer. However, to be honest I'm quite happy with the gaming performance of my current setup, so gaming performance isn't really the issue here. Main thing here is that I like to do video editing on occasion, so main issue is render/encoding power. Now, this is an area where Bloomfield seems to excel in compared to the current architecture, so that's a plus for Bloomfield. However, the editing I do are AMVs, so the videos I do are generally only 3-6 minutes long. On my current setup, a lossless render takes 15-30 min, and an encode for distribution takes another 15-30 min. Regardless of what I choose out of the above options, I'll likely see a massive drop in render/encode times.

I just started college, don't spend money too often, have money from my summer job. Also, I won quite a bit of other stuff at Nvision that I can sell (CM UCP 1100w PSU, Tagan 700w Modular PSU, Gigabyte 9600GT Passive cooled, Tagan El Diablo Case, as well as a pair of 8600GTS's that I bought before Nvision) to raise more funds.

So, in my position, what would you do?
 
Since nothing can really [properly] handle multiple cores still (with the exception of a few apps...perhaps a few games as well...) I'd go with the dual-core.

IIRC, you use vegas for editing...not sure if that has multi-core support or not.

Having the quad would help speed up certain encodes (like using meGUI for an x.264 encode or lagarith + vdubmod) as well as anything you'd want to do in a program like AE (though ram is also a player in rendering AE stuff...)

A dual core (especially one that is relatively recent) should still be enough to playback those nice HD x.264 encodes.

The other reason why you may want a quad is so you aren't cpu-limited with your gpu (that and if you want to get folding again, which you should, the quad would help out if you ran the gpu client. GPU + SMP + regular console = good folding O: ) Personally, I'd get the 45nm quad in this case, but if you're willing to wait a few months and spend a bit more I'd see how the Bloomfield does in benches and the like
 
Bloomfield renders like nothing you have seen before.... Raytracing on it is immense.

Can't say much more than that but yeah. ;)
 
Some really nice win-age first off !

Why not see what u get for the gear u don`t want, then u`ll be in a better position to talk cpus.

Guys are right tho, just for gaming a dual core is fine.
 
Well, there's someone selling a E7200 that supposedly did 4.2 on air (probably a bit less for 24/7) for $80 and another guy selling a 2gb DDR3 kit for $45. So together $125. Seems pretty reasonable. So, do this and wait a few months for Bloomfield maturity or flog the board now for about $275 and be an early adopter you think? Or any of the other options described in the first post?

Again, while main purpose for the PC is gaming, I'm not terribly fussed about gaming performance as my current rig is just fine for my needs in that regard. I'm mainly in this for encoding performance. I've actually been put off from editing sometimes because waiting for an encode was too much of a hassle.
 
name='WC Annihilus' said:
Again, while main purpose for the PC is gaming, I'm not terribly fussed about gaming performance as my current rig is just fine for my needs in that regard. I'm mainly in this for encoding performance. I've actually been put off from editing sometimes because waiting for an encode was too much of a hassle.

TBH I'd hold on to it the fact you got it for free. ;)

What I would do is grab an E8400 and 2GB DDR3. You'd have the foundation for a pretty good gaming system for at least two years. Just upgrade the Graphics card when the time comes. Pretty much all games are GPU bound anyway...

On that note, Nehalem isn't going to boost gaming much. Here's a read:

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=480

IMO for anyone considering Bloomfield you'd be best to hold off until the 32nm die shrink (if not longer) which is due for the end of 2009. Conroe and Penryn are already more than enough for everything today on account of software limitations.

Anyway that's my take...
 
I actually have a E7200 and this kit winging their way towards me now. Total cost: $135 :D And I know that Bloomfield does nothing for games, but from what I've seen it's a complete beast at encoding. I'll probably hold onto this set up until a few months into next year and then switch, unless I find the E7200 to fit my needs perfectly fine
 
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