Water Cooling Issue (I Think)

[SirTurtle]

I Got a fun one for the boys and girls of the OC3D Forums.

*Back ground information

I Built my computer rig into a desk with a glass top. Very Good Airflow Inside Table(Center of table furthest from fans you can still feel a strong breeze) Additionally all hardware Place Close to the Fans, First time using a Full Water Cooling System, have had 2 years working as a tech at a computer shop (Dont Sell WaterCooling Gear) and about 5-10 more years building Rigs In General.

*System (Everything except HDD is new)

CPU - 3820 Intel (Stock Clock)

MB - GB X79 - UD5

Ram - 16gb T1 Hyper X Kingston

VGA - Dual 6970HD PowerColor

Cooling - XSPC RX360 Rad, X2O 750 12V Pump/Reservoir, clear 7/16" tubing (*Approx 1.5m), RayStorm XSPC waterblock, 11 120mm "Silent" 90CFM CoolerMaster Fans.

PSU - SilverStone 1200W Gold

HDD - Hitachi 2TB 7200rpm

SSD - 120 Kingston Hyper X

*First Problem

When Computer is Booted Roughly 1 in 10 Boots, The Computer will Go into Bios without the keyboard being Touched, Before Bios Options Appear, Computer Restarts and Loads Normally Like Nothing Ever Happened..

*Second Problem (All Degrees in Celsius)

Computer Will be Sitting at 20 Degrees, Play a little BF3 gets up to 30-40 Degrees. Randomly 1-20 times using the Computer, It will be 20 Degrees, Then Just Internet Browsing, Music, Chatting and Cpu Rockets to 70 Degrees all cores, Task Manager Shows Cpu at 1-2% usage..

P.S - All Tubing Has Very Smooth Bends, Tightest bend would be a 45 Degree Bend Spread over 5-7 cm, So A Gradual Bend in a attempt to keep good Flow. The Rad has 3 Fans All In PULL position, No fans Pushing)

*Trouble Shooting Completed (Second Problem)

1. Used a secondary Computer to power just the Pump, Tempertures still randomly Rocketed to 60+ Degrees. (Dont think its PSU)

2. Used a secondary Computer not Touching the Desk to power Pump Alone (Computer off so 0 Vibrations from Fans etc..), The Bubbles where vibrating n shaking inside the top of the Res.

*Mistakes I Have Made

The Water is Flowing in Wrong Direction as it Flows INTO the waterblock via the Output, And flows OUT of the waterblock via the input as labeled by XSPC. Was Told by a fellow Tech that this might get me 1-2 degrees warmer but should be fine..

Thank you for your time n effort in reading this hopefully i can figure this mess out D: As i wish to OC but wish to fix all issues before i even attempt to OC.

 

[PetrolHead247]

There shouldn't be any bubbles at all flowing around the system, this could be causing the temperature issue. If there's bubbles they'll upset your temps quite a bit. Although a sudden rise to 60 C sounds a bit extreme.

 

[SmoulderingCircuits]

If you're using any profiles in a software app to control your fan speeds appropriate to temperature then use a different one - some are very pants.

Only time Windows has rebooted before booting for me is when FSB isn't stable or RAM timings are dodgy, or you may have insufficient volts somewhere

 

[S_I_N]

its possible your monitoring software is buggy in my current rig i have seen the same issue with the temps i simply hit refresh on the software and it went back to normal. had to do this a few time over a week and all of a sudden it stopped spiking.

 

[SirTurtle]

There shouldn't be any bubbles at all flowing around the system, this could be causing the temperature issue. If there's bubbles they'll upset your temps quite a bit. Although a sudden rise to 60 C sounds a bit extreme.

All Bubbles located in the top of the res and are very small. Ive never seen a bubble float around the system.

If you're using any profiles in a software app to control your fan speeds appropriate to temperature then use a different one - some are very pants.

Only time Windows has rebooted before booting for me is when FSB isn't stable or RAM timings are dodgy, or you may have insufficient volts somewhere

Hmm i thought voltages should be pretty standard as i have not even touched the speed of my ram yet, running at default 1333mhz. All Fans set to full speed all the time. No fan Controls, No fans connected to Motherboard. All Connected via 3pin to Molex Adapters Straight to Power Supply.

its possible your monitoring software is buggy in my current rig i have seen the same issue with the temps i simply hit refresh on the software and it went back to normal. had to do this a few time over a week and all of a sudden it stopped spiking.

I have also restarted directly after temp spikes and bios always reads high temps too, Got to turn off and leave for a 10-15mins and it goes back down to low temps.

 

[PetrolHead247]

Both the BIOS and hardware monitors use the same temperature probes, therefore will read the same ridiculous temps if reading errors occur. So in reality your system could well and truly be fine. Also, don't run your fans on 100% 24/7 as it will significantly decrease the life span of your fans. Plus water cooling is all about having a quiet system yet maintaining excellent temps.

 

[airdeano]

first issue - do you think you might have some malware attack in the first bios?

so the bios attempts to boot to second known bios?

second issue, it sounds like air is still trapt in loop.

do you psychically feel its HOT? 60° is warm enough to decipher.

airdeano

 

[SmoulderingCircuits]

Both the BIOS and hardware monitors use the same temperature probes, therefore will read the same ridiculous temps if reading errors occur. So in reality your system could well and truly be fine. Also, don't run your fans on 100% 24/7 as it will significantly decrease the life span of your fans. Plus water cooling is all about having a quiet system yet maintaining excellent temps.

For the cost of even the most expensive fans, it works out like £1 a month per fan for how long they last at 100%, may as well use their full potential.

 

[SmoulderingCircuits]

Hmm i thought voltages should be pretty standard as i have not even touched the speed of my ram yet, running at default 1333mhz. All Fans set to full speed all the time. No fan Controls, No fans connected to Motherboard. All Connected via 3pin to Molex Adapters Straight to Power Supply.

Should always specify rated values rather than using Auto in BIOS.

 

[SirTurtle]

Both the BIOS and hardware monitors use the same temperature probes, therefore will read the same ridiculous temps if reading errors occur. So in reality your system could well and truly be fine. Also, don't run your fans on 100% 24/7 as it will significantly decrease the life span of your fans. Plus water cooling is all about having a quiet system yet maintaining excellent temps.

Is this likely to be MotherBoard fault or Cpu Fault for Temperature Probes?, The reason there is no control on the fans is that most are 100cm + away from Mobo, so 0 chance in reaching.

first issue - do you think you might have some malware attack in the first bios?

so the bios attempts to boot to second known bios?

second issue, it sounds like air is still trapt in loop.

do you psychically feel its HOT? 60° is warm enough to decipher.

airdeano

Flashing \ Upgrading Bios should fix this problem? *Bios is latest Version anyway*

The air blowing out the rad is very cold even when temps are high, ive done alot of air bleeding, tilting the system, turning pump on and off and cant see any bubbles left in the loop at all. Would a bubble trapped in the Waterblock cause this issue, Also would me having the Waterblock flowing the wrong way effect it?

Should always specify rated values rather than using Auto in BIOS.

Alright, I've check bios they values don't fluctuate stay at 1333 and 3600mhz which are both stock speeds, I didnt think turning up the speed of the ram to 1600mhz (Rated at) would be beneficial until ive fixed all the bugs in the system,