Want to sell my Ryzen 1700 and get a 8700k. Is it stupid/greedy? Or is it OK?

[Rakanoth]

Hello,

I am disappointed with my Ryzen 1700. I lost the silicon lottery and got a bad CPU. It does not overclock well. I am stuck with 3700MHz. With Nzxt Kraken x62, it is 45°C at idle and 75°C under load. My vcore is 1.25v. With anything less this vcore, the system is not stable. CPU Load line calibration is at level 2, VDDSCR_SoC voltage is 1.1v and its calibration is at level 5. I wanted to set VDDSCR_SoC LLC to level 2 but some people reported on the other forums that their CPU died because of VDDSCR SoC's load line calibration was 2 or 3.

I tried reinstalling CPU cooling system (because I thought it did not sit well onto the CPU) and also tried with the stock cooler and a Noctua cooler. Still running so hot. At least for me. Also tried to reapply the thermal paste a thousand times. Still so high temps.

Before I bought Ryzen 1700, I had read and watched some reviews and I thought that it would be fine with gaming. The difference with 7700k did not seem so high. Also, I just bought a new 165hz monitor and now I am reading 8700k reviews and it is whetting my appetite. Apart from this, I don't do video editing etc. but I run several virtual machines from time to time. So, 8700k should still be enough as my main use will be gaming.

Would it be a greedy action to sell my current CPU and motherboard and get a 8700k CPU and motherboard? Financially, I am fine with it. But still ... I don't want to be greedy.

My current setup

Asrock X370 Taichi
AMD Ryzen R7 1700
Nzxt Kraken x62 AIO water cooling
G.SKILL Trident Z (F4-3200C14D-16GTZ) DDR4 3200MHz C14
Evga 1080 Ti SC2
Samsung 850 Evo 250GB SSD
WD Desktop Black 1 TB
NZXT S340 Elite Steel
Seasonic PRIME FOCUS Modular (80+Gold) 650W
Asus ROG Swift PG278QR Monitor

 

[MacLeod]

If you can swing it financially, I see no problem with it. The Intel will be a better chip for gaming and if that's mainly what you're doing and you're looking for very high refresh rates, Intel is going to give you 10-20% faster framerates. However there are several games where the AMD chips work as well and actually better than Intel so maybe check reviews and see which chip works best with the games you like to play.

Might be worth buying a 1700x or 1800x and trying your luck with those since your 1700 won't clock very well and seems to run very hot. Those temps don't seem right especially with the Kracken X62 which is about the best AIO on the market. Springing for a 1800x could save you some money and keep you from having to reinstall a motherboard and OS. Honestly, I'd have a hard time believing a 1800x paired with a 1080 Ti would not be an outstanding gaming rig.

 

[Excalabur50]

Also if your no happy with your current cpu you may be able to do something about it warranty wise so explore that option first

 

[Bartacus]

Several points:

1) that cooler is known to be sub-par;

2) have you tried tinkering with RAM speed? That makes a HUGE difference in just about everything. Getting nice tight timings with the RAM will give you quite a boost.

Ryzen takes tinkering to get the most out of it. But if you're willing to put some effort into learning stuff about timings and sub-timings, there are serious gains to be had.

 

[MacLeod]

Several points:

1) that cooler is known to be sub-par;

From all the reviews I've read, it's one of the best AIO's on the market. Sure you're not thinking about the original version? Those were rather ho-hum but the new Krakens seem to be getting pretty high marks from most review sites.

 

[Korreborg]

Not worth it. At 1440p the GPU is your limit. The difference is game depended.
Pay close attention to CPU reviews, they test at 1080p, as there you see the biggest difference.
But if you have the money, then go for it

 

[Bartacus]

From all the reviews I've read, it's one of the best AIO's on the market. Sure you're not thinking about the original version? Those were rather ho-hum but the new Krakens seem to be getting pretty high marks from most review sites.

I may have mixed those up, yeah. DOH!

 

[Rakanoth]

I decided to wait for Pinnacle Ridge CPUs and new Nvidia GPUs. Because:

1.) At 1440p 1700 vs 8700k won't make a difference.
2.) AMD can really increase single core performance with Pinnacle Ridge.

 

[Tripp]

I decided to wait for Pinnacle Ridge CPUs and new Nvidia GPUs. Because:

1.) At 1440p 1700 vs 8700k won't make a difference.
2.) AMD can really increase single core performance with Pinnacle Ridge.

You have made the best choice in my opinion dude

 

[AverageNinja]

Agreed. According to AMD, Ryzen as it is was a 'worst case scenario' meaning that Pinnacle Ridge will be able to achieve higher clock speeds etc.

Also you'll still have a clear upgrade path with AM4. If you get the itch to upgrade again, you could upgrade to Matisse or whatever comes after that and keep your motherboard.